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It wouldn't have been the same without the clip of the lad at Wigan gurning and doing windmills before his backdrop, it really feels like i've come to know him over the years!

Say what you like about the man (and plenty have) when it comes to self promotion PT Barnum would tip his hat.

Guess what's number 1 (Bit of a twist in the tale actually)

They are massively over priced and from the same seller and they've been on Gemm for months unsold.

 

The demo and issue on SS7 are still around £80 to £100 and the 77 reissue should be no more than £40 to £60 tops.

Your not kidding, someone sold one on here a couple of weeks ago on 77 for 8 quid!

Yes , Siz  would definately have djed there , also i remember Hovis from Oldham or Rochdale  djing ,  Think Siz and Tony Just  took over where Martin Christie left off with their  Sunday all dayers at The Ardri in  Hulme , I think round about this time the pair of em cashed in on the 79 mod revival  by slanting  some events that way . 

I remember Hovis was hanging about near the entrance talking to somebody whilst waiting to do his spot when someone came out and told him the fellow djing at the time had just gone into his record box and was now playing his copy of Kenny Gamble TJOY which was an exclusive at the time. If you thought Usain Bolt was quick off the mark you should have seen him shoot back in.   .

Tim Browns got the demo down at £500, and the issue at £1000.

Which would explain the 'wandering stars'

 Hell fire, don't tell me Lee Marvin's has been bootlegged as well. Is there nothing sacred? 

I'll get "mi leather" coat.

Tim Brown has this down as a £25 record on his price list database?

Slightly random but......

 

Why whenever there is a thread about Wigan people ALWAYS feel the need to add 'when it went crap' for them?.....

 

Down the years on this forum I've read Wigan went crap in 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 80 and 1981......... so that's only 2 years where the fooking place was any good, then!..

 Ha ha, and the best bit is they never went again  after it  turned crap but can still tell you how shite it was from then on!

Seem to remember Richard Domer  started apologising in advance on his record lists for his off hand manner in case you caught him on a bad day?   

Correct, and there was a smaller room off Mr Ms with a small bar and dance floor called Gerrys Inn also named after the afore mentioned.

Looks like a case of "not Wanting You"  

Intrigued by that statement,

does anybody know a Russ record that was truely his?

HI ALL...PETE As you are aware I am a big fan of your love of the history of the rare soul scene, and many of your writings would make good documentary's

One day we will have a public tv network, which this info that you give freely will reach a bigger market, ,

October 73 was my first visit to the Casino, as your list shows and proves, that the success of the CASINO was in it's playlist, at a time when apart from some local clubs, the scene was starved of a top all-nighter sadly the VAVA got overlooked by most, all but the locals, even the great adverts did not capture the attention of most.

For 6 months a rapid fall off of brothers & sisters who packed out the TORCH & JUNCTION fell of the scene only for a short period of time, but in that time the WIGAN DJ took on the very best tunes from clubs that had closed or only attracted locals, the playlist proves this, as for example many of the tunes on the list were played by Tony Dellerat the MALLET or PEP in the MIDLANDS and even purchased from Ian at the MECCA, As I say your list was played to many fresh ears the fact that the unfamiliar tunes were of the same class as the familiar, made the CASINO the best place to go in the UK, to me this success was also it's downfall as within a year some of the DJ at Wigan helped start new venues using the CASINO formula and slosh by finding the original DJ who discovered the records in the first place, To this day I could not tell you a RUSS record that was truly his find, can you, but I can tell you many from other DJ that are overlooked or get slagged off like IAN got, well maybe not as bad as IAN got, shame on some of you,

A great list Pete and again freely given, RIGHT ON DAVE K AS ALWAYS

Someone could always put in a super mad bid in for it and have the seller wetting himself, then when it comes to paying just tell him to feck off, i know for a fact e bay do jack shit about non payers if they happen to generate even a moderate amount of money on their site!

5 years is along time

 

5 years is a long time Nev

a £10 record can go for £100 in that time!

Especially a boot on ebay   

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Fiver well spent all day long

Hi It's in the "book" at 150 stock copy, 200 demo, but you can get lucky, ( whoops I tried to do a link to popsike showing a demo going for $41 VG- in March)

I thought long and hard before printing this but “publish and be damned”, here goes:

Last week I had a record up for auction on ebay, the eventual winner didn’t end up paying so I informed e bay (as not to incur the sellers fee), No problem, shit happens,move on!

So I decided to re-list the record as a buy it now so no one will end up bidding more than they should and end up having second thoughts, they can just sum up the price and buy it at leisure as it were, if they wish.

Just after listing it I noticed a member on Soul Source (he looks to have made quite a few posts, and asked for quite a few wants) had it down as a want, so I pm’d him.

I was actually at least the second one to contact him as someone had already posted a pm message to him.

After giving him the details (demo) and condition and price he got back to me saying It’s only to play at charity events 3 or 4 times a year in which he receives no money for doing and he doesn’t have “much funds” and that he as already been offered a couple of stock copies but asking could I manourve on price?

I got back to him with a 10% discount but received no answer.

A day later he contacted me on e bay( I actually have another username so he wouldn’t have realised it was me) telling me the same tale and that he’d bid  to a certain amount at the time of the first auction but missed out (I looked back at the bidding, he had indeed put a bid in, but for less than he told me he had) and offering to buy it at  about 25% less than the buy it now price.

I messaged him back telling him his charity work sounds very commendable and I salute him but this sounds like emotional blackmail, if it’s only to play at charity events 3 or 4 times a year there’s no real need to own a demo (unless it’s for his own satisfaction) and he would be better buying a stock copy (5 to 10 times easier to come across and obviously cheaper) and donate the difference to the charity ?

 Or better still grab a download and donate the lot to the charity? (I don’t know the music policy of the said event).

He messaged me back listing all the good causes and the amount he had raised saying no offence, but plenty people where happy to sell him records on the cheap because he raises money for charity with them.

Now am I missing the point here?

Is he putting the onus on me to backhandedly make a donation to the charity?

I know another soul site used to ask for people to donate unwanted records so they could auction them and give the proceeds to charity, great idea, no problems with that whatsoever.

To me though this smacks of him building up his collection on the cheap on the back of his charity fundraising. (If he sells them on in future would it be for the price paid, or a tidy profit say?)

I have in the past myself done charity bike rides and fun runs but I wouldn’t dream of asking for a discount on a bike or a pair of trainers if I was buying them on e bay because of that fact.

The record in question is far from rare and the demo when up for sale struggles to reach three figures!

Apologies in advance if  I ‘ve got the wrong end of the stick on this one!

PHEW!

Unless a box load comes along  

Bit of a wet dream isn't it.  Would you rather win the lottery or drop on the same amount financially by finding a shed load of super desirables and having the pleasure of knocking them out one by one? (As if)   

Can understand your beef, he should either just put a reserve on them or start the bidding at the least he's willing to accept!

I don't like it myself, well I'll rephrase that I wouldn't spend that amount of money on it if it was a couple of hundred yes but honestly its not that great the intro is fantastic but once they start singing they are all over the place and then it seems they all lose interest three quarters of the way through. Only my opinion though.

I only became aware of this record fairly recently, and have obviously never heard it out, but i can understand why it became such a monster. To me in the same vein as a few of Searlings late Casino biggies, not the most soulful of records but one that hits the nerve!

To be honest Simsy that's a picture of one i grabbed off the internet, but it did happen for the first time the other week and i'm still not sure if it's because the guy decided to send a 45 in an LP box . When i contacted him he said that's nothing to do with it, someone had told him always send them in an LP box then they don't "slip down the sides when being shipped". either way he guaranteed me a trip to the sorting office to pick it up!