Ken, funny you should mention the Wigan thing..... a few years back at a Soul Night organised by Francis T and boys in Kidderminster they had booked Russ Winstanley to play, the place was packed with normals and after he'd finished his spot said normals started coming over for his autograph, strange but true. Then this fella with his girlfriend appears and he ask's Russ to sign the bottom of her back, I didn't watch him signing her back cos she was wearing hot pants and looked great but the boyfriend copped me looking, so quick as flash I asked what was gonna happen when the ink washed off, he wasn't bothered because he had her booked in the day after to have it tattoed over; so this girl in her thirties is supposedly walking around with winstanley on her back all the time, poor cow