Hi Ray
No Problem.
Hi Ray
I wouldn't worry too much about Counterfeits of these labels, although they do exist.
It sounds so far like you have originals.
Almost all of my records came from Soul Bowl in the 70's, Including the ones I have given you the DeadWax Information on.
The GW-47 of yours, I would say is 100% OK as you describe it. I have two copies of this and Both are Scatched ZTSC.
The GW-46 - Heart Trouble - The Parliaments.
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Scratched "ZTSC-121124" with a "-P" STAMPED to the side of the ZTSC and the "2" or possibly "1" 180 degrees across the record, STAMPED in the DeadWax. You're right, it is hard to say whether it is a 1 or a 2.
Ric-Tic RT-111 - To Win Your Heart - Laura Lee
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The White DEMO Scratched "ZTSC-107550" with "T1" Scratched 180 degrees across the record in the DeadWax.
The Stock Copy Scratched "ZTSC-107550" with a "-P" STAMPED to the side of the ZTSC and "1" Faintly STAMPED 180 degrees across the record in the DeadWax.
Remember also that slightly different labels exist on the Golden World Issues.
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The Position of the GW-21 and even the Font.
Some of the other titles are STAMPED and some are Scratched, I will try to list which I have that are Scratched and which are Stamped, possibly Friday/Saturday, as I Work Nights Sunday to Thursday and will be going to bed soon.
I was Intending to collate the Information to add to the Hitsville Site anyway.
Any further help, do not hesitate to contact me.
Hi Ray
I will answer all of your questions if I can.
The stamps are usually followed by a Number and Letter, as you can see below this can be different across the same Issue Number.
I have multiple copies of other Titles, I will have a Look tomorrow to see if I have any with a Stamp and another with a Scratched Matrix.
Of the top of my head I think I have a ZTSC Revilot with a Stamp on one side and a Scratched matrix on the other, so you can see it doesn't appear to follow any pattern, but I will let you know what I can find out about this, so Point 2 may take more time, I will get back to you.
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- "ZTSC104215-2 C" STAMPED-/-THE OTHER SIDE--"ZTSC104216-1 C" STAMPED
- "ZTSC104215-2 B" STAMPED-/-THE OTHER SIDE--"ZTSC104216-1 B" STAMPED
--"ZTSC104215-2 A" STAMPED-/ THE OTHER SIDE--"ZTSC104216-1D" STAMPED
Point 1 >>> LINK <<<
The records were pressed by Columbia Records,
if you follow the Link there is lots of Information about Various Pressing Plants.
Including ZTSC
The code itself is broken down thus,
Z - indicates a 7" medium
T - transcription
S - indicates 45rpm
C - Chicago, where they were pressed
Point 3 Dave Moore has done some wonderful articles on Various Labels Including Golden World and Ric-Tic
>>> LINK <<<
The Work that I am doing is constantly being updated as I find Information.
With Some of the The Labels I have Included links to Sound files when you click on them.
It is on the Hitsville Forum. We have gathered together Information from Various sources to try to complete Both the Labels. I will shortly be adding the ZTSC Information.
Information for some of the Ric-Tic records is a bit hard to Obtain.
We are still searching for some of the DEMO's.
>>> LINK to My Ric-Tic Posts on Hitsville Soul Club Of America <<<
>>> LINK to My Mirwood Posts on Hitsville Soul Club Of America <<<
I will keep in touch and hopefully find out more Information on the Scratched vs Stamped Matrix.