Sunnysoul

Anyone ever bothered to listen to the fantastic flip side of that Lovelites 45 , track called "Oh What A Day " , actually the better side IMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Sebastian Isley' original version also issued in Australia on a CBS 45 in 1974 as the flip to "Highways of Life " Yes , lovely toon , both sides of the Isleys, although the Ace Spectrum version is excellent for Northern dancefloors !

Sorry Gene, didn't want to start an international incident here or offend anyone, just some sensible discussion about the issue of record grading. It was just that more than a few people in recent years seemed to have been a little let down by the condition of records bought from some well known collectors / dealers in the UK. Of course there are dodgy dealers all over the world, but I think the point I was hoping to make was that we could all try to tighten up the approach to grading , which would benefit all of us in the end, especially on the rare soul scene which means the most to me and the scene that most of the people on this site circulate in. That's all I was trying to do. By the way my closest mates are just about all from the UK. To be honest with you, I couldn't possibly come anywhere near Tim Brown as far as record collections go and I certainly never claimed rights to the Soul Scene in OZ either, maybe I gave the wrong impression ... if that was the impression given. If I did offend Gene , or anybody else , now or before, my unreserved apologies to all. Hope to be over there in the near future and catch up with many long time friends and have a few drinks ... on me of course. Cheers

Darrell Banks Is Here LP ?

"Good or Very Good" Condition ??? By Goldmine grading standards , a record in "Good" condition would have LOADS of DEEP scratches , pops , and clicks , virtually unplayable. "Very Good" would mean still lots of scratches and marks and not much better than "Good" .... Based on those gradings , none of the records in the list, not even the big tunes, would be worth more than twenty to fifty quid really. I think sellers should take the time to be more specific on gradings , and in particular describe whether a record has cue burn , plays slightly off centre, has it been been jocked with to any great extent , and give a separate grading for condition of label etc etc I'm getting the impression that a lot of collectors outside the UK are becoming increasingly frustrated with UK Northern and Rare Soul dealers / jocks / collectors who ignore factors such as cue burn , label condition etc when selling records, and particularly the dreaded "Exc" grading (after Mint) that only people from the UK seem to use. And UK sellers never seem to recognise that a record can be graded anything less than VG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As if the "Poor / Fair / Good" gradings that everyone else uses around the world don't exist !!! Gradings should go from: MINT never played, as if hot off the press VERY GOOD PLUS slightly less than mint, played only once or twice in its lifetime , the lightest handling scuff from sleeve etc VERY GOOD some very light superficial marks , still really nice looking GOOD more marks , cue burn , some scratches FAIR more scratches (what some would call " good for DJing only, this is what many UK sellers would grade as "Excellent" !) POOR very scratched all over The grading of "EXCELLENT " should be completely removed from the mind set of UK sellers !!! If a record has been jocked with for quite some time (causing groove wear) , but still appears to have very few marks visually , but may have cue burn etc , then I believe such a record should be graded as Fair or Good Plus , NOT as Exc or VG + that UK dealers have got into the habit of describing !!! Anyway thats my lecture for today!!! Think this topic of record grading on the soul scene in the UK definitely deserves a major thread on Soul Source. As I say non UK collectors are getting very frustrated at the way UK soul dealers describe what are otherwise only good or fair condition records as "Excellent or Very Good Plus " etc etc I have to return more than a few big records to UK dealers for refunds over the last 12 months because of this... Over to you Mr Moderator.................

I'll take the Coasters LP if its still there . What's the cover pic/ design like ? Is it the one with the old drunk with a bottle in his hand and a hat on , as on the US King original LP ? Which UK London label design is it ? The plain black one with silver writing I guess ? Cheers!

Ian , I can trade you a nice exc condition demo of Sugar & the Spices, for a mint Mel Britt or Constellations I Dont Know About You PM me if you like Cheers!

Try and get the version by Earl Okin on UK Columbia , its much better and he's the guy that wrote it !

"*Tupac: House of Blues 1996" WELL IF TUPAC PLAYED AT THE HOUSE OF BLUES, IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT HE HAS SOME RELEVANCE TO SOUL SOURCE Wonder if he did a rap version of Bright Lights Big City or summit like that on the night to cater for the Blues crowd !!!!!

Let's just say it's the Four Vandals for ease of reference !!!

"JIVE CAT" The Apollas (Warner Bros) Considering how revered the Apollas are on our scene , I've never ever heard this played out or even seen it on lists for sale. It has a great version of "Under The Influence of Love " (the first and original version perhaps ?) on the other side. Its not really a rare record, or in demand (yet ) , but what an absolute stormer , every bit as good as Mr Creator. Anyone familiar with it ? And does anyone have any detailed or in depth information on the girls (or know of any web sites) other than the stuff on that Loma compilation CD of a few years ago ? Lead vocalist was I understand Billie Barnum, who I always guessed might have been related to HB Barnum, the group and HB Barnum being LA / West Coast based ... Anyone ? Jive Cat , a STORMER !

Thanks, are record and sleeve both mint ? Cheers!

OK , I know you're all gonna laugh , and tell me I'm dreamin" , but I'm being serious here and this IS a WANTS Forum after all !!! I want originals ONLY , ex or mint , of the following and yes , I CAN pay for 'em ! No time wasters please , and only quote me SENSIBLE "market prices" too ... CONSTELLATIONS " I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU" KARMELLO BROOKS " TELL ME BABY " UNIQUE BLEND " YES IM IN LOVE " MEL BRITT " SHE'LL COME RUNNING BACK " WILL COLLINS "ANYTHING ETC" MINNIE JONES " SHADOW OF A MEMORY " MONTCLAIRS " HEY YOU ! " Please PM me onl y !

" Smooth Sailing " !!! by The Temptations Fantastic B side fingersnapper !

Isn't there some story about the LP's rights and publishing and why it can't be released on CD ???

And the Independents cut is the BEST version ( not to mention the most EASILY obtainable version) , so lets have none of this " the rarer versions are better " nonsense from the elite few anoraks on this site !

I have a friend who wants a copy and will pay $200 US . Please PM me to sort it ! Cheers!

It might be fair to say that the Northern scene has always attracted its share of (manic) depressives who appear to be (on the surface) miserable people who seek solace in the form of getting off on the fantastic music ...... Ummmmmmmmm... apologies for the amateur psychology !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't argue with the above Ady but some would probably associate Thom Bell with the 70's (Stylistics, Spinners) rather than the 60's when he worked most notably with the Delfonics...

That's the boot then isn't Ian ?

Definitely an EP originating from Asia. Seen a few of these in Oz over the years. Not worth much more than a tenner I would say as it doesn't have any of Brenton's "northern" orientated tracks. Ones to look out for are the three EP's issued in OZ , all very rare and with nice mid tempo dance tracks taken off the Brenton Wood LPs ...

I picked up a white demo recently of the Bill Brandon disc .... can you guys tell me whether there is any question about the white demo's being legit ? And also are the boots that are surfacing appearing as white demos or issues ? Need your help on this . Thanks!

Brilliant Pete ? Sounds like another August and Deneen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember reading old copies of Blues & Soul and Black Music from the 70's and they always referred to this group as a "bogus" Dramatics , never really elaborated on how or why. Can anyone clarify whether this group had any (legitimate) connection to the real Dramatics ?

Has any one got an original of Gwen Mcrae's " Melody of Life " LP to sell me at a fair price ? Please PM as soon as possible ! The title track is definite future 70s monster on the scene !