Ged Parker

Often wondered why lemonade is made with artificial flavours and washing up liquid is made with real lemons. Be interested to know if it works when someone tries it. I'd reather not be the first though:shades:

Any one else got a copy of Barbara Masons "Oh How It Hurts" Arctic 137 Issue that plays "Game of Love" instead of "Ain't Got Nobody"? The 'A' side come from the same plates as the demo I can't compare the Game of Love side as the Arctic 134 on which it was actually released I only have as a single sided demo. Funny thing is although they are consecutive Barbara Mason releases they are from different years. Ok this may be Jan 67 and Dec 68 but still wonder how this mispress came about. Just be nice to know how many others there are.

This is a terrible situation to be in John and I sympathise (though sympathy doesn't pay the mortgage). I'd name and shame now as it seam like you've been waiting a while in any case. I know how heart wrenching it can be to have to sell prize tunes you probably never get again and had to off load one significant tune to part fund my daughters wedding. Luckily I had a buyer stateside who I know and trust but he still did a bank transfer before I sent the record. I don't take records I can't pay for there and then so expect others to be the same.

I agree but you can't un-invent them.

The music, there is nothing but the music for me. I know you don't know exactly what will be played at any venue (well maybe just a few venues ) but the line-up of DJ's should tell you the venues attitude. I didn't know I would hear Cory Cornell at Maximes but I did know I had more chance of being pleasantly suprised like that by the DJ line up at Maxiimes than anywhere else. I have been to Rugby a few times and DJed for Sian and Dean who are perfect hosts. I always found Rugby to be great especially the mix in the small room but I was DJing at Maximes so had to be there . In any case I'd have chosen Maximes over anywhere in the country. For me it was a shame Maximes and Rugby ended up on the same night but that's another debate entirely.

You do Ginger a dis-service here he has a superb collection but just doesn't get chance to play some of his rarer peices. If you'd heard him at Middleton and then compared that to a set at Prestwich I think you'd agree he can match his set to most if not all crowds. Having said that I do get your point.

I feel such a system would need to be based on actual sales prices. Not what things were advertised at but what they sold for. If it could capture selling prices on items for a given period and average them out e.g. items in the £10-20 range over the last 6 months items in the £1000+ range over the last 5 years. It could also apply the current exchange rate to quote prices in £ and $ and apply a sensible formula to grading / price e.g. M= 100% of price VG= 50% of price. Come to think of it it could apply the formula and give the actual price for each grade. Now if such a system was available on could be accessed on a mobile device i.e. Blackberry I'd pay the price of a current price guide each year to access it. I'd need to be a collector that ran it not a dealer though. I wonder if some dealers would be willing to share their selling price data for free access to the site. They wouldn't be able to massively influence the guide prices because of the averaging mechanism. Food for thought for one of you web developer wizards.

Go to any music venue outside the soul scene with 300 or more people in on a Friday or Sat night. Then come back on here and tell us there's too many piss heads on the soul scene. You need either a reality check or visit to your local Oceana to get some perspective.

Nail - Head - Hit There's differences in the same town let alone North and South.

There is a well known psychological phenomenon called the "endowment effect" that applies to lots of sales by collectors. If you buy a record for a price lets say £100, you make a choice which do I value most £100 (or the opportunity cost of £100) or the record. If you are a true collector rather than a fickle hot boxer why would that opinion change if you need to sell a record. If you still feel that you'd rather have the record than £100 you will need to sell it for more than £100. If it doesn't sell you have to adjust your view or do without whatever you need the £100+ for. People are terrified of losing out and so their view of what a record is worth if thrown out by other sales, auction prices, dance floor popularity etc. My wants list is massive and growing all the time but I'll only buy records for what I value them at and with a massive wants list theres always something else to buy. Oh and Pete why is your "Last Played" track Buddy Smith I thought you hated it?

I think this is the approach most DJ's take. Can I ask the original poster what evidence she has that the DJ is a "liar" rather than just didn't get the opportunity to fit a record in to the flow of the set or simply (and this is sometimes the case for me) couldn't locate it in his box or thought he'd brought it and hadn't. I change probably 50% of my play box before every event I'm asked to DJ at (not always the same 50% lol) and with my playbox holding about 2% of my records I can't always swear to exactly whats in it. I would however play any record I own if asked for it and had it with me. If its wrong for the venue or the type of music I expect to work with the punters it isn't in my box.

Not sure if its the same 'MY' records but I have a track by Merging Traffic "Ain't No Need in me fooling Myself" on the MY label somewhere. It a yellow label if that matches?

Mick the owner of Records and Relics in Blackpool has the lot London, Oriole, Stateside etc everything upto 1979 and he is very very particular about condition. Roly Ferguson has first refusal if he ever decides to sell and that was in turn for Roly selling him a complete set of the Motown Appreciation Society magazines that Dave Godin put together along with other memorabilia such as a telegram sent to Dave Godin on the setting up of the Society which I think was from Berry Gordy. I had the fortune to have a read of them while Roly still had them - facinating stuff.

Played this at Maximes on Sat night to a decent reaction from the floor but a better one from comments off people after my set. Must have been seven or eight people asked me about it. Good luck in finding one took me an age.

May do a little better in Sales rather than Wants. Can a mod oblige?

For some spitting in people's ears is the best part of the night

I know a few that dance like that the same to every record that plays no matter what tempo. The cattle prod is a good idea just not for the really ugly ones as the extra electricity used would substantially increase our carbon footprint

As you know Joe I don't go out to be social would make the record bar a bit quiet to. Could solve the two room problem at Maximes Backbeat on one channel and the Willingham Suite on the other sorted

Link To Silent Arena This is interesting not sure it's been discussed on here before but basically every one on the dancefloor wears wireless headphones and pic the channel that suits them or swaps and changes as they like. It'd be a brave promotor that tried it I think but you never know.

This will not be a popular view but the best venues should and could charge more IMHO. Anyone who want to hear rare records should recognise that the costs of putting on such a night are considerable. I know others don't care about format or rarity (for rarity read rarity of play not fewer copies in existance) and ironically these are the sometimes the best attended venues. For me the two markets are different and I'd want to pay less for some soul nights and be willing to pay much more for a "Quality" (in my opinion) nighter. Trouble is most don't see it as two markets and so the average door tax at one type of night sets the punters expected price at the other. I know I've not explained that very well but it makes sense to me. How about making a nighter £20 but £15 for members and if someone makes money out of it so what. The important thing for me is the product I'm buying not how much profit is made. I know not all soulies shop at Lidl, Aldi or B&M Bargains but if they applied the same logic in their shopping as they do to cost of a soul nite most would. Perhaps thats why I don't promote anymore lol

Welcome aboard Reverend good to have you here.

AM I the only one that thinks I'll Be Sweeter is so like Jimmie Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak. On Topic - Billie Kennedy -Sweet Things & This is a Groovy Generation

Funny but not as daft as people may think

They're about 7 years too late He didn't have any spares back then

I have to agree on Sam Cooke who had to fight opinions not only from the white audience but also the relegious black community opposed to his turning from his gospel roots to secular music. Much as Michael Jackson was an icon his loss has severely warped peoples views of his impact in his early days. Motown was already massive before the J5 joined no matter how spectacular their impact. I'm not deminishing MJ's status just that his impact on white acceptance of black music is being somewhat overplayed.