Hi Frank, I use Jet Audio, best player I've ever used and the only one I've stuck with. This will also convert to many formats including mp3pro which will reduce your mp3/wav to about the same size as real media when converted at 32 or 40 kbps, far better sound quality than real media to. I've mailed you off list Here's the flip that Frank sent through to me..... Wendell Watts Will You Be Staying After Sunday Ref Or Ree.mp3