Chalky

Thats The Way Love Goes - Phantom anyone got a price or even one for sale?

it's not a patch on Marion Stewart

There are several groups who went by the name Elgins. One on Congress. Another who recorded on Titan, Valiant, Double Shot, Flip, Lantham & Lummtone, as already mentioned. The Motown Elgins (VIP, Tamla) who previously recorded as the Five Emeralds on SRC and later on Peacock as the Downbeats. There's the Elgins on Nite who were Little Tommy & Elgins. Also Johnny Lee Johnson and the Elgins and of course there's the Temptations who were once known as the Elgins.

How can the price guides be pretty useless? Apart from being pretty good reference guides you can bet most who sell and don't know the prices will set their price by these guides. How many times do you see on here someone asking for a value and then get quoted what the price guide quote. If you are going to buy one, buy the latest just for extra thats not in previous guides. New Bootleg guide out sometime this year as far as I know.

1 Sam Williams - So Called Friends - Uptown WDJ M- £100 Fantastic northern and of course one of the ultimate deep soul flips ! 2 Silky Hargreaves - Keep Loving Me .. - Dearborn Issue ! Ex £400 3 Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long SS7 WDJ M- £250 4 Bobby Montgomery - Make Me Yours - Highland WDJ M- £200 Truly fantastic double sider 5 Al Gardner - Sweet Baby - Sepia Ex+ £1,000 A proper hard northern record, only 3rd copy I've ever had ! 6 Al Mason - Good Lovin - Fynal Vynal Ex+ £500 7 Dennis Edwards - Johnny On The Spot WDJ Ex £2,000 8 Perfections - Till I Get Home - Calgar M- £225 9 CV Horn - Love Is A Situation - Della M- £60 10 Daybreak - I Need Love - Pap M- £1,000 11 The Remarkables - You Wouldn't Change Anything - Audio Arts Vg- £100 1st time I've ever had a stocker of this great group midpacer - rare! 12 Elbie Parker - Please Keep Away From Me - Veep WDJ Ex+ £500 13 Soul Searchers Band - Sad Sad Story - Dart M- £125 Nice Group Dancer From this classic label 14 Johnny Summers - Is The Feeling Still There - Audio Forty M- £300 I've always thought this to be his rarest, what a great vocalist! 15 The C - Quents - Easy For You Baby - Quest (has a slight warp, doesn't affect play) M- £250 Real nice group double sider, took me years to find my own copy 16 The High Keys - Living A Lie - Verve Ex+ £250 17 Joe Valentine - I Lost The Only Love .. - Val M- £300 One of the most perfect double siders of all time ! 18 Yvonne Vernee - Just Like You Did Me - Sonbert Ex £1,000 19 Monorays - Love - 20th Century - DJ M- £150 I reckon pretty hard on black label DJ copy 20 Joey Heatherton - When You Call Me Baby - Decca DJ Ex £120 21 Barbara Mason - You Better Stop - Arctic Vg £125 Seems very popular again, nice Philly dancer 22 Decrescendos - One Of The Crowd - Prism Ex £150 Old Stafford spin, still love it 23 Jerry Washington - Don't Waste My Time - Glades M- £500 Proving to be one of the harder titles from the prolific Florida outfit 24 Leroy Taylor - Takin' My Time - Shrine M- £150 One of the few decent 45's from this crazy east coast label 25 Bettye Swann - The Man That Said No - Money Ex £90 Hardest of her faultless money releases 26 California Rock Choir - Whoever You Are - Cyclone M- £80 27 Vernon Garrett - Angel Doll - Venture W/D M- £80 Bloody marvellous record 28 Commands - No Time For You - Dynamics - W/D Picture Sleeve Vg £175 Not often I find this with a picture sleeve - nice ! 29 Jimmie Gresham - Be Prepared To Pay - Barbary Coast WDJ Ex+ wol £200 Nice promo, of course including the timeless deep classic flip 30 Tony Hestor - Watch Yourself - Karate Ex+ £200 31 The Paramounts - Under Your Spell - Magnum M- £140 32 Third Soul Trio - That's A Natural Fact - Cabell M- £150 Up - tempo Northern Dancer 33 Paramounts - Until I Found You - Cabell M- £75 34 Parliaments - Cry No More - Cabell Ex £400 Both sides every bit as good as the other one, March's flavour of the month label... 35 Mr Tears - Don't Lead Me On - 4J M- £50 Always liked this since the days of Stafford ,of course this is Paris of sleepless nights fame 36 Tobi Legend - No Good To Cry - Mala DJ M- £40 Fantastic tune 37 Commands - No Time For You - Back Beat - M - 40 M- £40 38 Kenny & The Impacts - Wishing Well - Dcp WDJ Ex+ £60 lilting Jamaican favourite 39 Timiko - Is It A Sin - Checker WDJ M- £40 40 September Jones - I'm Coming Home - Kapp WDJ Ex £350

I'm not a bootlegger

it's got bits missing though and gaps in it I had it but can't seem to find it

If you go elsewhere in Europe from where you mentioned, 70's 80's funk, northern and even more recent releases all exist happily along side each other. It's all soul music to them with no oldies or disco.

Kym Fuller did an article a year or so ago in Soul Up North on the Capsoul label. There's also a cd from the Numero Group Eccentric Soul series featuring Cap soul. They also did one on the Deep City Label and Big Mack amongst others. Some worthwhile releases by the looks of things. Look HERE

anyone got full mp3 of the Rockin With Soul Larry did?

Chandlers had another release on Bleu Rose (Never Before) You're Love Keeps Drawing Me Closer. I presume it's the same group.

what about Guy's unissued Detroit Rhythm Section?

some info from Wikepedia.... A popular musical group for most of the 1960s, The Collegiates were known for their musical versatility and their regional recording successes. The combo was highly regarded in the Tri-State area of Kentucky, Ohio and West Virginia, as well as part s of the south and eastern seaboard where their records charted. The combo was formed by four high school friends in the summer of 1960 in Huntington, West Virginia. While several personnel changes were made throughout its eight-year run, the grou p's reputation and popularity grew while its members were attending Marshall University. Even after graduation The Collegiates continued their quest for national success, finally disbanding in 1968 after several key members moved on. The group featured the basic instrumentation of bands of that era "lead guitar, bass, drums and a saxophone. It also utilized an unusual (at the time) combination of electric piano and organ that allowed The Collegiates to cater to a wide-range of musical tastes. With versatile skills and contrasting musical interests, the members were able to easily adapt their performances for the audience at hand. No question that they were a tight rock and roll band, but the group had no problems with jazz, old stand ards, folk, country, and rhythm and blues. As a result The Collegiates were popular in a variety of venues "nite spots, country clubs, college and high school dances, civic and service club events and rock and roll shows (now called concerts). The y also appeared on local, regional, and nationally syndicated television programs. The Collegiates frequently opened for well-known acts including Jerry Lee Lewis, the Beach Boys and Gary Lewis and the Playboys. They also worked on the road opening for and backing such performers as Little Anthony and the Imperials, Johnny Tillotson and the Chiffons. The group promoted its public appearances and pursued a career breakout by producing eight recordings during a four year period from spring of 1963 to the fall of 1967. Most of the records were released on a local label owned by their manager and sold well regionally. Their biggest seller, "I Can't Get You Out of My Mind", was picked up by Mercury Records's Smash label and distributed nationally. Two members "bassist David Groves and drummer Larry Levine--were with the group from start to finish. Others Collegiates included Larry Ascough, lead singer; Jack Dorsey, saxophone; Eddie Nenni, sa xophone and clarinet; John Thabit, guitar; Jim Thornburg, guitar; and John Wilson, keyboards. A RECORDING HISTORY OF THE COLLEGIATES 1. "Say Hello To My Angel" was recorded at Cincinnati's King Studios in January of 1963. Ba nd members financed the 3-hour recording session and an initial order for 1,000 45 rpm copies. The flip side was "What Is A Dream?" Both songs were written by lead singer Larry Ascough and his wife, Kay. Three female Marshall students (du bbed The Classmates) sang background. The record was released in March and several local radio stations put the song on their play lists. Modest local popularity of the tune led Francis J. (Mac) McGlynn to become interested in the group. Mac owned David son's Record Shop in Huntington, WV, and also ran Music Man, Inc., the one-stop record distributor (wholesaler) for the West Virginia/Ohio/Kentucky Tri-State area. He became The Collegiates manager and provided financing for their subsequent recor dings. 2. "Won't Ya Let Me Be Your Baby" and "Just You" were recorded in March, 1964 at the Bur-K Studios in Ashland, Ky. The lead singer collaborated with guitar player Jim Thornburg on "...Baby" wi th Ascough penning the B side. It was popular at the group's live performances and with McGlynn's promotion efforts it sold moderately in the region. 3. "There Must Be Somethin'", another original by the lead singer, w as one of 4 sides cut at King Studios in Cincinnati in the spring of 1965. Bo Diddley's "Roadrunner" was on the flip side. Released in early summer, the disc had moderate sales success in the regional Tri-State market and parts of the east coast. 4. "I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind" and "My Babe", the other two sides from the King session were released in the fall of 1965. The latter, a cover of the oft-recorded classic by Willie Dixon, was the B side. Co-written by the lead singer and guitar player, the A side did extremely well regionally, becoming #1 in both Huntington and Charleston. The record also fared well on a Cleveland radio station's weekly "battle of the band s" where callers voted for the competing songs over a week period. Due to this regional success Smash Records, a subsidiary of Mercury Records, released the disc nationally. The record received a positive review from Billboard Magazine and did fairly well on the east coast and in the south. As a result the group was asked to appear on the nationally syndicated "Upbeat" TV show. A number of popular acts were on the show including live performances by Jerry Lee Lewis and Otis Redding. The program was taped in Cleveland where the group remained to promote its record and to open a series of shows for Jerry Lee Lewis (who was also on the Smash label) at the Garden Theater. 5. "Who Needs Enemies" and the flip side "Only You Can Make Me Well" were written by Chuck Howard a country music artist. He had seen The Collegiates at a hotel engagement in Ironton, Ohio where he was also booked. A singer/writer/and aspiring record producer, Howard convinced the group to journey to Nashville and record some of his material. Both songs were recorded at the Monument Studios in Nashville in August of 1965. Joining the basic band were Grammy winning musician Charlie McCoy and Wayne Moss, a popular session guitarist. Vocal background was provided by the Jordanaires of Elvis Presley fame. The country-pop sound was a little ahead of its time and the record enjoyed only moderate success. 6. "Think Back" was written by a Canadian g uitarist named Mike Kamenar who played on the recording session at Cincinnati's King Studios in September of 1966. The back side was "I've Tried Everything", written by the lead singer. It was released in the late fall and be came regionally successful. 7. "The Rains Came", a cover of the Sir Douglas Quintet hit, was the 2nd recording from the King session. It was released in February of 1967 and became another #1 in Huntington and Charleston, doing very well regionally. It was at the top of area charts when the group opened for the Beach Boys (who had the nation's #7 hit at the time) at Charleston's Civic Center. The B side was The Collegiates' version of the Huey Smith song, "High Blood Pressure." 8. "Raindrops, Parts I & II" was recorded at a Lexington, Kentucky studio in July of 1967 with horn accompaniment from a popular area group The Magnificent Seven. It was released in the fall along with a strong review from Cash Box Magazine. Sales did not live up to the reviewer's prediction, although the tune remained one of the group's most popular at live performances. Several songs recorded in the Nashville and Lexington sessions were never released. Due to changes in band personnel, including the lead singer's move to New York, the group which was formed in 1960 disbanded in August of 1968. p

Cabell 101 Collegiates Just You Won't Ya Let Me Be Your Baby Cabell 102 ? Cabell 103 ? Cabell 104 Collegiates I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind My Babe Cabell 105 Collegiates Only You Can Make Me Well Who Needs Enemies Cabell 106 Collegiates I've Tried Everything Think Back Cabell 107 The Rejects All Of My Life Just A Little Bit Of You Cabell 108 Collegiates The Rains Came Cabell 109 Third Soul Trio That's A Natural Fact What About This Love Affair Cabell 110 ? Cabell 111 Collegiates Raindrops Pt 1 Raindrops Pt 2 Cabell 112 Parliaments Cry No More Sweet Nuthin' Cabell 113 The Rejects Black Is Black Down This Street Before Cabell 114 Paramounts Until I Met You All I Want To Do Is Wait as far as I'm aware all from 1964

I'll agree with that Mick

from the playlists I've seen the Attic do play summat different and the Union Soul Club (Mick H's venue) at the side of the Trent in Nottingham certainly play summat different. Lifeline is probably the best all-nighter of it's kind playinmg anything but the same old same, plus it's not far from you either. The Wilton is less than an hour up the road too with the anniversary later this month. As for the other venues locally, some I stopped going for exactly the same reasons you state, as did quite a few of my mates who live locally, or others I can't comment on the music policy as I've not been and don't see playlists. If you don't mind the drive there are venues that cater for those who want to hear something other thanb the same old same.

There's plenty of uptempo danceable 70's 80's soul, modern, soulful funk, wahtever. Gop abroad, they play all genres and the dance flolors are full. One of the reasons IMHO is they don't have all the oldies, newies, modern baggage we have, it's just Soul Music.

186 tracks.

I've got this on vinyl Bob, had it years. Was deleted a long time ago and I recently saw the cd set in HMV in town here.

how can I forget those why are the records termed 60's newies back then still referred to as 60's newies?

Trouble is it's hardly evolving now, going backwards in many casesd to a more oldies and retro scene. The sooner it gets away from the oldies only mentality and embraces crossover (and I don't mean Angie Stone, Futures etc) and other genres the scene will stand a better chance of bringing in some young uns.

In the 80's I can't really remember "Northern Soul" being used to a great degree. It was mainly "Rare Soul" or "6t's Rare Soul" etc or in some cases just the name of the soul club and all-nighter.

oops, Mike found it while I was posting it again..

Fi-Yi Dance - soulful two - pure soul music 1108 16001 refosoul Prefer the Soulful Two version myself, bit more than £40 too. Think the last one I saw was a ton.