Chalky

Yeah me

Regardless how you look at it, although we didn't know it at the time John had a massive influence on British (and European) youth culture at the time. Not just Northern but as stated Rare Groove, Boogie etc. He knew which records would suit which venue, he was feeding Djs at Cleethorpes and Wigan and both had their own sound. He was feeding Djs at other venues in later years. They in turn helped him shift stock he had if a particular record went big. Business? Yes but he was also influencing. He wasn't alone in this as others were doing the same just not on the scale that Soul Bowl was.

But the scene has always been obsessed by rarity and price, Leon Hayward, James Fountain, both caused a stir in their day. Records that were newly discovered went to the boys at the top, the average Joe had to wait until quantity were tracked down, the Dj often dropped them once everyone had access. Most Djs reputations were built on exclusivity, or rather a venues reputation, Levine and Curtis at The Mecca, Searling at Wigan etc. Later years its more about the Dj than the venue as there was no central venue, Butch, Sam etc. All built their reputations on sets that were pretty much exclusive to them and we followed those Djs, we went to venues to hear those records because we couldn't hear them at home. I don't know if the records back in the early What is happening today isn't so much about rarity though. How many of those records do we see week in week out go for silly prices that are genuinely rare, not many. Most are around in collections or Dj boxes in significant quantities. Now a Dj builds his or hr reputation on how much they spend, not for what they play, they are booked by promoters because they are talked about for what they spend and you are right that is stifling progression and imagination. You only have to look at the number of superb previously unreleased material that is released and how many of the big boys will play them, not many.

£150 the last one I saw, in July.

why not look for something else cheaper? plenty of quality records that are affordable. Plenty of Djs have those 1000 quid records so why listen to someone playing a boot/carver, call it what you want The history as you call it, records were cut because there was no original (studio tapes) or just one known original with a collector, much of what Soussan sent over, Jackie Day Naughty Boy for an 80s example. That is hardly the case these days with plenty having those originals. By and large it has always been about rare original vinyl, Djs having records exclusive to them. You want to Dj with a carver, do you accept monopoly money for your fee?

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Some great stuff by the man tucked away on the 70s Lps.

More quality crossover, 70s and 80s Modern Soul James Brown - Your Love Was Good For Me - Get On The Good Foot – Polydor Lp Thelma Houston - Nothing Left To Give - Mowest UK Phillip Ballou - Ain’t Nothing Like The Love - Super Disco Edits Benny Johnson - Baby I Love You - Today Harold Melvin & The Bluenotes - Prayin’ - Source Gary Glenn - Gonna Giver You My Love - PPL Bobby Womack - Something For My Head - Columbia Chuck Cissell - Don’t Tell Me You’re Sorry - Arista Randy Brown - I’m Always In The Mood - Parachute Test Press Luther - Follow My Love - Cotillion Voices of East Harlem - Take A Stand - Can You Feel It LP Just Sunshine Tony Owens - (When You’re Wrong) You Got To Pay The Price - Listening Post Willie Hutch - Walking On My Love - RCA Bottom & Company - You’re Messing Up A Good Thing - MD Records Barbara Lewis - Just The Way You Are - Enterprise Bobby Womack - Tell Me Why - Beverley Glen Phillip Ballou - We’ll Be Together - Super Disco Edits Trade Martin - I Wouldn’t Do Anything (That Might Hurt You) - Buddah Barrett Strong - Surrender - Capitol Voices of East Harlem - Amazing Love - Can You Feel It LP Just Sunshine Willie Hutch - Deep In Your Love - Whitfield Wilson Williams - I Think It’s Gonna Work Out Fine - ABC Odyssey - Battened Ships - Mowest Jesse James - If A Man Ever Loved A Woman - Soul Junction Dionne Warwick - Meant To Be - Soul 4 Real Irma Thomas - Turn Around And Love You - Soul 4 Real Corey Glover - Little Girl - LaFace CD Odyssey - Our Lives Are Shaped By What We Love - Mowest

Quite a bit of what Soussan sent over were emidiscs, Frank Wilson for one. Others at Stafford and in the 80s were played from cuts with the only known (at the time) copy in a collectors hands, they needed playing. Now there is no need for any of that and hasn't been for years, enough originals rare and not so rare, expensive and not so out there to satisfy everyone.

Bootleg if you ask me

My understanding too, Mastering Frankford Wayne stamp too

What is in the runout Drew

UK or US?

Last nights show (13th October) with special guest Chris Turnbull

The US label is one of the most complicated to collect if you are bothered about what is in the runout groove, different matrix etc.

A bottle of white and a couple of hours, some records that could well get asa airing at Piercebridge to see the New Year in, if you fancy two days and two nights seeing in the New Year at the George Hotel with some quality Crossover, 70s, 80s & Modern Soul shout up. Gene Chandler - Love Is Growing Deeper - Tiger Lily Ted Taylor - Standing In The Wings of Heartache - Contempt LP Bridge - Crying For Love - First Experience Records Golden Bridge feat Leon Beal - I Can Prove It - Six Nine Records Eddie Leon - Just Got Tired Of Waiting - Leon Records Solo - Blowin’ My Mind - Perspective Eddie Leon - Let Me In Your Arms Again - Leon Records Family Affair - You Can’t Stop My Lovin’ - Jobete Natural Impulse - We’re Gonna Make It Through - Soul Junction Ron Shy - Don’t They Know (Alt Take) - Soul Junction Marjorie Ingram - Another Woman Involved - Hit & Run Razz-Ma-Tazz - On The Disco Floor - Cannonball Ray Godfrey - I Ain’t Giving Up - Kent Select Darrow Fletcher - (Love Is My) Secret Weapon - Kent Select Street People - Your Momma Had A Baby - Kent Select Anglo Saxon Brown - Gonna Make You Mine - Atlantic Willie Hutch - You Can't Miss Something That You Never Had - RCA Loleatta Holloway - I Can’t Help Myself - Aware Warren Ray & The Infernal Blues Machine - It’s The Feeling I get - Kent Khemistry - Can You Feel My Love - Columbia Greg Perry - I’ll Always Be In Love With You - RCA Margo Michaels - Take My Everything - Jobete Kathy McFarland - Memories (They Dance With Me) - Jobete Luther - Don’t Wanna Be Your Fool - Cotillion Soul Stirrers - Trying To Be Your Friend - Jewel El Count Executives - I Want To Thank You - Cannonball Lamont Dozier - Take Off Your Make Up - ABC Jean Can - If You Want To Go Back - PIR Ronn Matlock - You Got The Best Of Me - Cotillion Ben E King - Fly Away (To My Wonderland) - Atlantic Lamont Dozier - New Breed Kinda Woman - Invictus Wali Ali - (Oh I) Need Your Lovin’ - Jobete Frankie Sanders - Take Another Look - Juana Gateway - The Shown Is Over - Super Disco Edits

Ady is auctioning 5 copies, auction closes tonight, email with your bid

Just by typing "Tamla Motown" into 45 Cat it gives you 714 entries. Then you have Fontana, Stateside, London & Oriole. Discogs gives you 8,672 entries, that's Lps, 45s, Eps, demos, issues, variants etc and probably a lot of duplication?

Another mix of some recent and some forthcoming releases. Dayton Grey - Love Is On The Line - Cordial Golden Bridge feat Leon Beal - I Can Prove It - Six Nine Records (Forthcoming) House Brothers - Shake - North Broad Street (Forthcoming) Barbara Lynn - Soul Deep - Soul 4 Real (Forthcoming) Mary Wells - Hands Off My Baby - Soul 4 Real (Forthcoming) Jesse James - What Happened To The Oo-Wee - Gunsmoke (Forthcoming) Thomas Cain - Try My Love - Soul Direction The Mansion - Stop, Let Your Heart Be Your Guide Soul Junction (Forthcoming) Tomangoes - Since You’ve Been Gone (Alt Take) - MD Records Kim Tibbs - Summertime (Radio Edit) - Izipho Barbara Lynn - Unloved Unwanted Me - Soul 4 Real (Forthcoming) Mary Wells - Love Letters - Soul 4 Real (Forthcoming) Dayton Grey - He Won’t Love You Like I Do - Cordial Jesse James - I Be A Fool - Gunsmoke (Forthcoming) Bill Albright - Sitting By The Phone - Amnesia (Forthcoming 2023) Clyde Moultry - Without Your Sweet Lovin’ - 100 Club 43rd Anniversary Tomangoes - Loves Got A Hold On Me - MD Records James Lately - What You’re Doing - MD Records Eddie Hill - I Am So Thankful - Kent Select (Forthcoming) The Detroit Emeralds - Long Live The King - Kent Select (Forthcoming) Warren Ray & The Infernal Blues Machine - It’s The bFeeling I Get - 100 Club 43rd Anniversary Joe Bucknor - I Wish I Knew - Kent Select (Forthcoming) Loleatta Holloway - I Can’t Help Myself - Kent Select (Forthcoming) Loleatta Holloway - Mrs So and So’s Daughter - Kent Select (Forthcoming) The Mansion - The Girl Next Door - Soul Junction (Forthcoming)

Hi Dean The price I took from GZ website, didn't look in to it in detail. I realise there are mechanical royalties on top but 500 seems a compromise rather than 300 many are doing as they seem to sell pretty quickly if the quality is there.

Fish has copies back in stock if anyone needs one.... https://www.firstexperiencerecords.com/product/sandy-barber-i-think-ill-do-some-stepping-on-my-own-12-remixes-pre-order-in-stock-30-8-22/

Catch up of the last two shows

Got ya, couple of other remixes from 2011, John Morales and Al Kent. Certainly took its time to arrive this track though.