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Wigan 74 - Whats the track at 19:00 minutes please?
Chalky replied to St Pauli soul's topic in Look At Your Box
The gear was certainly good in them days I'd need to be off my head to put up with crap like this -
House Brothers is from 1979 and it sounds from that period as well, doesn't remotely sound like a modern recording. The date is typed on the label and on an info label on the sleeve. Fantastic record IMO.
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Easter Sunday April 9th 2023 20:00 - 04:30 Couture (ex Top of The World), Newport Road, Stafford, ST16 2EZ Early-bird tickets, £20 inc postage. PayPal with address to: chris@newcenturysoul.co.uk Bank Transfer email Chris for bank details at cpwaterman@hotmail.com
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Tonight's show 10th November 2022
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Articles: Miss Motown - Raynoma Gordy & Jack Gibson
Chalky replied to Graham Jarvis's topic in Front Page News & Articles
In Miss Ray's book the first mention of any date in New York is summertime and she was settled and growing the office etc by then. Early 63 or Spring 63 is the likely time she left Detroit. -
This one should be dropping soon from Six Nine Records, super up to date version http://www.sixninerecords.co.uk
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Released as a download earlier this year this is getting a release on vinyl via Izipho https://www.iziphosoul.com/julian-jonah---nows-the-time-for-us--comin-back-for-your-lovin-out-18-november-167-p.asp
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This weeks show with the guys from "Follow The Music Not The Crowd" John Gallagher & Kev John
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In 1969, a 20 year old Charles Lorenzo Blakely along with fellow members of the street gang he hung out with became involved in a shoot out with another rival Milwaukee street gang which resulted in the death of one of their rivals members. Following the arrival of the Police, the shoot out developed into a high speed car chase with Charles being the driver of one of one of the evading vehicles. Charles’s vehicle was eventually brought to a halt when the Cops shot out all four tyres which caused the car to crash at 90mph into a department store called Schuster’s Warehouse. The other occupants of the vehicle managed to get away with the exception of Charles (who himself was packing a gun) having being shot twice by the Cops in the back and shoulder as well as sporting a broken arm received in the crash was the sole arrest at the scene of the crash. Following his arrest and conviction he was sentenced to 30 years for ‘Attempted 1st Degree Murder’ (due to the shots being exchanged with the Police) and a consecutive 10 year sentence for ‘Eluding’ (evading) arrest in a high speed car chase. After a subsequent retrial Charles as the car driver was found not to have been directly involved in actually shooting at the Police, so the initial 30 year sentence was quashed leaving Charles to continue the subsequent 10 year sentence at the high security Green Bay Reformatory in Allouez, Wisconsin. At the time a common practice within the US Prison System was to encourage inmates who had shown some musical ability to channel their energy into performing as groups for their own and their inmate’s entertainment. Thus in 1970 Charles Blakely formed his first ensemble under the name of the Mansion, a name he chose after reading a book on English Stately Homes! The Mansion’s line up included at different times Michael Locke, Stanley Newburn, Carl Anderson, John Crawford, Michael Smith, Larry Moses, Ronald Hardin, Jerome Wagner, Lewis Lister, Maurice Payne and Charles himself. One day while rehearsing in the prison chapel, The Mansion attracted the attention of the warden’s wife who happened to be showing some local dignitaries around. Impressed by what she heard the warden’s wife was instrumental in The Mansion being invited to perform for the city’s television station WBAY, where they recording two holiday programs. The warden later gave them permission to perform outside the prison which brought them to the attention of a Milwaukee neighbourhood program adviser by the name of Al Dunlap of the Commando Project One. It was through Dunlap that The Mansion recorded their solitary 45 release in 1974 “The Girl Next Door /Stop! Let Your Heart Be Your Guide” for the local Milwaukee label Gibbs (406). The label’s owner Bill Gibbs held the release back until some of the members of The Mansion were granted their release papers, as prisoners were unable to sign any contract agreements while still incarcerated at that time. Although Charles Blakely remained incarcerated, he was later moved to a medium security prison in Fox Lake County, Wisconsin. While there he formed a further group, a gospel ensemble called the ‘Bell Tones’ who’s line up included Charles, Mayweather Lee, Joe Hayes, and Levell Rudd. The formation of this group was seen as major factor in Charles’s rehabilitation which led to his eventual parole in late 1976, thus serving 7 years of his initial 10 year sentence. Once on the outside Charles with former ‘Bell Tone” member Mayweather Lee were joined by Charles (Sonny) Bryant and Jimmy Taylor to form a new ensemble by the name of The “Final Chapter”. As the final Chapter in 1980 they recorded a solitary release for Milwaukee main man Marvel Love’s New World Label “Now I Know/Get Down For Your Action” (NW800), a brief association that for several reasons was to eventually break down. Although Jimmy Taylor left to pursue a career as a blues musician the remaining three members of the ‘Final Chapter’ continued to perform until they finally disbanded in 1987. Although recorded, further Final Chapter songs post to their new World release remained unissued, a situation soon to be rectified with their inclusion as part of a future Soul Junction project. Charles himself is still active in the music business and is currently working on a gospel project. Following his parole in 1976 Charles has left his notorious past behind him and has stayed on the right side of the law with not even as much as a speeding ticket to his name to this day. Words By: David Welding Acknowledgements to: Charles L. Blakely for the colourful interview and photographs. Label scans courtesy of Mark (Butch) Dobson. The above article is a the fully extended version of the sleeve notes of the Soul Junction CD album “We Got A Sweet Thing Going On ” Volume 1 (SJCD 5009) released in 2014 Which will feature both sides of ‘The Mansion’ 45. The Final Chapters issued and unissued songs were also released on a further Soul Junction compilation “We Got A Sweet Thing Going On” Volume II (SJCD 2011) in 2016. Press Release: The Mansion The Girl Next Door/Stop, Let Your Heart Be Your Guide SJ548 Release Date: Monday 7th November 2022 To buy got to https://www.souljunctionrecords.co.uk/SJ548.html or send @Louise a message The Mansion were initially a prison group formed by Charles Lorenzo Blakely in 1970 while serving time in the Green Bay Reformatory at Allouez, Wisconsin. The Mansion’s line up included at different times Michael Locke, Stanley Newburn, Carl Anderson, John Crawford, Michael Smith, Larry Moses, Ronald Hardin, Jerome Wagner, Larry Lister, Maurice Payne and Charles himself. One day while rehearsing in the prison chapel, the Mansion attracted the attention of the warden’s wife who happened to be showing some local dignitaries around. Impressed by what she heard the warden’s wife was instrumental in the Mansion being invited to perform for the city’s television station WBAY, where they recording two holiday programs. The warden later gave them permission to perform outside the prison which brought them to the attention of a Milwaukee neighbourhood program adviser by the name of Al Dunlap of the Commando Project One. It was through Dunlap that the Mansion recorded their solitary 45 release in 1974 “The Girl Next Door /Stop! Let Your Heart Be Your Guide” for a local Milwaukee label Gibbs (406). The label’s owner Bill Gibbs held the release back until some of the members of the Mansion were granted their release papers as at that time prisoners were unable to sign any contract agreements while still incarcerated. Although Charles Blakely remained incarcerated, he was later moved to a medium security prison in Fox Lake County, Wisconsin. While there he formed a gospel group, called the ‘Bell Tones’ who’s line up included Charles, Mayweather Lee, Joe Hayes, and Levell Rudd. The formation of this group was seen as major factor in Charles’s rehabilitation which led to his eventual parole in 1976. Once on the outside Charles with former ‘Bell Tone” member Mayweather Lee were joined by Charles (Sonny) Bryant and Jimmy Taylor to form a new ensemble by the name of The “Final Chapter”. As the final Chapter they recorded a solitary release for Marvel Love’s New World Label “Now I Know/Get Down For Your Action” (NW800) during 1980, a brief association that for several reasons was to eventually brake down. Although Jimmy Taylor left to pursue a career as a blues musician the remaining three members of the ‘Final Chapter’ continued to perform until they finally disbanded in 1987. Three previously unissued Final Chapter songs can be found on Soul Junction Various Artists CD compilation “We Got A Sweet Thing going On” Volume II. The Mansion’s Gibbs 45 is now is a highly prized and sort after item amongst Sweet and Group Soul collectors. For further information please contact Soul Junction at: Tel: +44 (0) 121 602 8115 or E-mail: sales@souljunctionrecords.co.uk SJ548 The Mansion - Promo.mp3 SJ548 The Mansion - Promo.mp3
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Last saw him and managed a chat in Cleethorpes at the 6ts Weekender few years ago, same time as Derek Martin if memory serves. Real sad loss to the UK and indeed Soul music in general. R.I.P. and thank you for the music.
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sorted The House Bros - Shake - 7" only -North Broad St Records
Chalky replied to Tagtag's topic in Record Wants
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The notes with the Symphonical release on Bandcamp Cincinnati teens Bill Smith & Randy Vandivier would play together during the late 60s in a group called ‘Billy & The Hitch Hikers’ fronted by James Bowens, who through his fascination with James Bond would adopt the nickname ‘Double O’ Hailing from Lincoln Heights, the group would be surrounded by and play with the likes of Bootsy Collins, Charles Spurling who became staples at local King Records Bill & Randy would find themselves working together at the local Holiday Inn during the 70s whilst writing & performing with their own projects. This gave Bill the opportunity to pursue recording & releasing local artists under his own record label, 'Split Records', which would happen at the all in one recording & production facility, Rite Studios in their local neighbourhood Bill had asked Randy to gather the musicians together for three separate recordings to be released under Split Records, whilst employing ‘Double O’ and his backing vocal group ‘The Demingos’ ‘Color One Tear Black’, a poignant, melancholic expression of lost love, created & sang by James Bowens was their third recording in the studio. The guys on that session were Pete Irving on saxophone, Robert Chamberlain playing bass guitar, John Keys on guitar, Randall Vandivier playing trumpet & Harry Darke on drums
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Bill/William Smith is one of the group members as far as I can ascertain. Nothing to do with Major Bill. Both James Bowens and Bill Smith were part of James Bowens and His Agents who did the storming northern side Baby I Want You
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Been a couple at least this year privately
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Never seen or heard anyone else who has seen an LP. Not enough material released for an LP so maybe some lurking in the vaults?
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This weeks show....
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A MEMBER ON HERE ???
Chalky replied to Steviehay's topic in All About the SOUL
Knew I was here very early as I was on KTF (e-mail chat group) and then this began, Flynny gave me the nod. Keep up the great work. -
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A MEMBER ON HERE ???
Chalky replied to Steviehay's topic in All About the SOUL
Mine says 2002 but sure I was a member before that, think there was some sort of reset????? -
Yeah me
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Regardless how you look at it, although we didn't know it at the time John had a massive influence on British (and European) youth culture at the time. Not just Northern but as stated Rare Groove, Boogie etc. He knew which records would suit which venue, he was feeding Djs at Cleethorpes and Wigan and both had their own sound. He was feeding Djs at other venues in later years. They in turn helped him shift stock he had if a particular record went big. Business? Yes but he was also influencing. He wasn't alone in this as others were doing the same just not on the scale that Soul Bowl was.
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But the scene has always been obsessed by rarity and price, Leon Hayward, James Fountain, both caused a stir in their day. Records that were newly discovered went to the boys at the top, the average Joe had to wait until quantity were tracked down, the Dj often dropped them once everyone had access. Most Djs reputations were built on exclusivity, or rather a venues reputation, Levine and Curtis at The Mecca, Searling at Wigan etc. Later years its more about the Dj than the venue as there was no central venue, Butch, Sam etc. All built their reputations on sets that were pretty much exclusive to them and we followed those Djs, we went to venues to hear those records because we couldn't hear them at home. I don't know if the records back in the early What is happening today isn't so much about rarity though. How many of those records do we see week in week out go for silly prices that are genuinely rare, not many. Most are around in collections or Dj boxes in significant quantities. Now a Dj builds his or hr reputation on how much they spend, not for what they play, they are booked by promoters because they are talked about for what they spend and you are right that is stifling progression and imagination. You only have to look at the number of superb previously unreleased material that is released and how many of the big boys will play them, not many.
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Shirley Wahls - That's How Long (I'm Gonna Love You)
Chalky replied to Mal C's topic in All About the SOUL
£150 the last one I saw, in July. -
why not look for something else cheaper? plenty of quality records that are affordable. Plenty of Djs have those 1000 quid records so why listen to someone playing a boot/carver, call it what you want The history as you call it, records were cut because there was no original (studio tapes) or just one known original with a collector, much of what Soussan sent over, Jackie Day Naughty Boy for an 80s example. That is hardly the case these days with plenty having those originals. By and large it has always been about rare original vinyl, Djs having records exclusive to them. You want to Dj with a carver, do you accept monopoly money for your fee?
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Dean Anderson presents The Sound of Soul ™ 20th October 2022 8pm - 10pm Every Thursday "Live" chat in the facebook group. Phil Shields joins us for another treatment of his sublime rare soul music. A great guy, great knowledge and great taste. So please join us for another fabulous show...