Chalky

I mentioned this book in another topic, a must have for all you anoraks who just love information. Steve is one of the West Coast top collectors and a mine of information. His previous book L.A. R&B Vocal Groups 1945-1965 is a hard to find and very sought after. It is only available on US amazon but I got my copy from there and it arrived in about three days. Steve Propes "Old School" 77 Years of Southern California R&B Vocal Group Harmony Records 1934-2011 https://www.amazon.com/SCHOOL-Southern-California-Harmony-Records/dp/1461076927 This is what is on amazon.... OLD SCHOOL Southern California R&B & Vocal Group Harmony Records 1934 - 2011 by Stephen C. Propes. A never before published chronological compendium of musicians and/or groups, titles, original record labels, local and select out-of-town radio and record store chart positions...combined with the stories of the records, either from those involved or from original research...and in notable cases, an idea of the value of these discs. Popular music in Southern California has a surprisingly short history prior to World War II. Though a recording scene existed in the early 1920s, for all intents and purposes, the aggressive recording, pressing and marketing of phonograph records in the L.A. area didn't really take hold until the 1930s, and in fact, many of these 1930s releases were party records with double-entendre themes. However, the post WWII era was a different matter. With the emergence of some L.A.-based pop and race music stars, generally with radio, nightclub or motion picture connections in the early 1940s, the serious business of recording for the mass market began in earnest. The development of rhythm and blues and soul in any major market has never been fully documented in the way this book portrays over 1,400 record releases by over 850 groups or artists described here. Many of the records featured in this work hit either the local or national popularity charts, or both, however not all records made a visit to those lists of best sellers. Some of the artists described within had spectacular multi-decade careers, but many of them were of the one-off or best case, one hit variety. Though the work concentrates on rhythm and blues and soul music, there are other genres, such as novelty, jazz, gospel and pop sprinkled in when the story supports inclusion.

No mate, not sure if Andy can scan it or take a photo. Will ask.

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME (CHALKY) A PERSONAL MESSAGE. USE ANDY'S CONTACT DETAILS BELOW OR YOU COULD MISS A LONG TIME WANT Andy Dyson Records April 2014 Sales List E-mail Dysonsoul@aol.com Telephone +44 (0)1302 744927 (Please leave a message if not available, I will get back to you) UK Postage (recorded 1st class) 1-2 £2.50, 3-5 £2.75 then 25p each disc. Special Delivery £6.50. Europe Postage (recorded 1st class) 1-2 £4.00, 3-5 £4.75 then 25p each disc. European Royal Mail International Signed For £9.00 Rest Of World Royal Mail International Signed £10 Postal Address Andy Dyson Records 32 Wheatfield Drive Tickhill Doncaster South Yorkshire DN11 9UT United Kingdom WOL Writing on label XOL Cross on label SOL Sticker on label WDL Water damaged label TOL Tear on label LD Label damage LW Label wear WDJ White Demonstration copy DJ Demonstration copy NAP Not affect play. LF Label fade SBS Same Both Sides I WILL BE AT SOUL ESSENCE SO I CAN TAKE THE RECORDS THERE TO SAVE POSTAGE? Wants lists catered for, simply e-mail to the address above. The Ballads - I Can't See Your Love - VJ WDJ Ex £50.00 (Rip roaring group dancer) ballads-i can't see your love.mp3 The Ballads - My Baby Knows How To Love Her Man - Venture WDJ £25.00 (Proper fantastic dancer & nice slowie flip) ballads - my baby know-god bless.mp3 Kenny Ballard - Mr Magic -Kapp - WDJ M- £35.00 (Early Chuck Jackson style mover & nice deep soul flip) ballard kenny - mr magic.mp3 The Baltimore & Ohio Marching Band -Condition Red - Jubilee Ex+ £20.00 (Big favourite of Mick H's over the last couple of years!) baltimore+ohio marching band - condition.mp3 Darrell Banks- The Love Of My Woman - Cotillion - WDJ Ex+ £40.00 (Perfection, Don Davis, F Briggs, Dale Warren and Groovesville — all featured on this 45! Very light water stain on label) Darrell Banks - Mint West Coast Copy, Light Blue Label Copy £60.00) banks darrell -love of my woman- i wanna.mp3 Darrell Banks - Beautiful Feeling - Volt M- £25.00 (Again perfect with the added pens of bridges, knight and Eaton) banks darrell - beautiful feeling - no one.mp3 Darrell Banks - I've Got That Feeling -Atco Ex+ £25.00 (Again fantastic stuff!) banks darrell - i've got the - here come.mp3 Richard Barbary - Get Right - Spring M- £20.00 (Excellent northern) barbary richard-when johnny-get right.mp3 Fontella Bass - My Good Loving - Prann M- £35.00 (Infectious soul dancer & nice deep soul ballad flip) bass fontella-my good loving.mp3 Rose Batiste - Come Back In A Hurry - Revilot -206 M- £75.00 (Detroit dancers, up-tempo and mid-tempo both sound nice and fresh) Rose Batiste Vg Copy of above £50.00 batiste rose-come back.mp3 Tony Baxter - I'll Come To You - Chubby Ex+ £25.00 (Dancer and downbeat, both Bobby Adams tunes) baxter tony- i'll come.mp3 Bell Brothers - Tell Him No- Sure-Shot Vg+ £30.00 (Tremendous northern and epic deep soul flip) bell brothers-tell him no.mp3 Chris Bernard — Mother - McVoutie M- £ 60.00 (Class crossover & screaming Funk flip, 1st label) bernard chris-mother.mp3 Chuck Bernard - Funny Changes - Satellite WDJ sxol - £50.00 (Gritty up-tempo dancer popular mid-tempo flip) bernard chris - every hurt makes - funny.mp3 Big Frank Murphy - It's All Over But The Pain - Phillips WDJ M- £50.00 (Classic Stafford & dancer flip-frank dell of course!) Big frank murphy-it's all over-you my.mp3 Eddie Bo - Hook And Sling - Scram Ex- xol £35.00 (Essential funk number- light blue label & thick sturdy wax) bo eddie-hook and sling.mp3 Chuck Bridges - Keep Your Faith Baby - Vault Ex+ £30.00 (Brilliant up-tempo double sider) bridges chuck-keep your faith-bad sam.mp3 Mel Britt - She'll Come Running Back - Fip - M- £1000.00 SOLD (Nice in virtually unplayed shape) britt mel-she'll come-love.mp3 Gary Brown - Lonely Summer - Brownie M- £25.00 (Oddball bluesy soul ballad) Otis Brown - Southside Chicago -Ole M- £400.00 (Class double sider. I prefer the flip, very rare in my humble opinion) brown otis -southside chicago - i've got.mp3 Gene Burks - You Got It - Chris -Craft Ex + 2xol - £50.00 (Top northern and deep soul) burks gene-you got - you don't.mp3 Harold Burrage - Got To Find A Way - M-Pac M- £40.00 (Great stuff indeed!) Burrage harold.mp3 Harold Burrage - Master Key - M-Pac M- £30.00 (Haunting midpacer & nice slowie flip) Billy Butler - I'll Bet You - Brunswick Ex+ £25.00 (Custom made northern and slow soul) butler billy-i'll bet - careless.mp3 Bobby Byrd - Lost In The Mood Of Changes - Smash - Ex £30.00 (Quality tune from the small back rooms of the eighties) byrd bobby-lost in the mood-oh what.mp3 Eddie Carlton - Wait - Crackerjack M- WDJ £35.00 (Early Soul Double Sider) carlton eddie-wait-kokomo.mp3 Chicago Pete & The Detroiters- I'm Begging You-Valerie - M- £40.00 (Nice soulful down beat ditty, comes with pic sleeve that is a little tatty round the edges) chicago pete-i'm begging.mp3 Combination Inc - I Got To Go - Stacey - Ex £70.00 (Great Up-tempo Group Double Sider-Tempts Style) combination inc-i got to you-adam.mp3 Johnny Copeland - May The Best Man Win - Golden Eagle - M- £60.00 (Brilliant take on this by one of the best) copeland johnny-may the best.mp3 Johnny Copeland - I Got To Go Home - Golden Eagle - Ex+ £40.00 (Infectious Mid-tempo & Blues Flip-White And Gold Logo) copeland_johnny-ii_gotta_go.mp3 Anna Craig-Shout And Tell The World - Decca - DJ M- X2xol £35.00 (Catchy up-tempo, downbeat Stafford play flip. Nice Dj Copy) craig anna-shout and tell-the life.mp3 C-Quents - It's You And Me - Essica - M- £75.00 (Fantastic Group Dancer & Ballad Flip) c-quents-it's you-dearest.mp3 Cynthia & Imaginary 3 - That's What I Am - Big Hit - Ex £250.00 (Lovely Detroit wailer & intense deep ballad flip) Determinations - Bing Bong - King - M- £125.00 (Excellent dancer & nice ballad flip) Dramatics - Your Love Was Strange- Volt - WDJ, S/S M- £25.00 (Just great!) dramatics-your love.mp3 Chuck Edwards - Pick It Up Baby - Rene - Ex+ WDJ - £50.00 (Northern dancer & classic funk flip) edwards chuck - pick it up - bullfight.mp3 Ethics - Searching - Vent - Ex WDJ - £25.00 (Two group soul sides, west coast white demo) ethics-searching-sad,sad.mp3 Exciting Changes - I've Got Something Good For You - West Hill - Ex+ £200.00 (High-grade dancer and deep flip) exciting changes-i've got-falling in.mp3 Falcons - I'm A Fool I Must Love You - Big Wheel - Ex+ £50.00 (Real deal budget soul sounds great) Falcons - Standing On Guard - Big Wheel - M- £30.00 (Class group dancer, flip is I dare say my fave song by them) falcons-standingon-i_can't.mp3 Sam Fletcher - More Today Than Yesterday - Vault - Ex+ £30.00 (Nice middle of the road take on this classic) fletcher sam-more today.mp3 The Formations - At The Top Of The Stairs - Bank - Ex £50.00 (Wonderful double sider, has to be scarce these days. Found these Copies in Philly 25 years ago) formations-at the top-magic.mp3 Franky And The Spindles - Here Is A Beauty - Roc-Ker - Ex+ WDJ Date Stamp - £25.00 (Cracking slowie & northern flip) Donna Frisco - I Love Every Little Thing (About You) - Showtime Ex £200.00 (Two excellent dancers, not so easy to find) Cassietta George - Don't Give Up - Audio Gospel - M- £50.00 (Cracker of a dancer) george cassietta - don't give-in the.mp3 The Germs - I'm A Teardrop - Honour Brigade - Vg £30.00 (One of the first northern tunes I heard at the youth club, still love it!) Al Greene - Don't Leave Me - Hot Line - Ex+ £20.00 (Northern dancer & beaty ballad flip from one of the finest vocalists ever) green al -don't leave-back up.mp3 Willie Gresham - Step By Step - Majesty Ex+ £40.00 (Two fantastic throaty up-tempo dancers) gresham willie-step by step-i cried.mp3 Bud Harper - Let Me Love You - Peacock Ex £30.00 (Two great Stafford era dancers, every bit as good as "Wherever”) Harper bud-let me-mr soul.mp3 Don Hollinger - Cruel World - Atco M- £50.00 (Top-notch throaty vocal northern and deep) hollinger_don-cruel_world-until.mp3 Joe Hughes - May The Best Man Win - Boogaloo Ex+ £80.00 (Dynamite up-tempo take & ballad flip) The Invincibles - Can't No One Man - Ciray Ex £150.00 (Brilliant Group Northern double sider, labels reversed which I’m positive all copies are) Bobby Jones - Talkin' Bout Jone's - Expo WDJ Ex £50.00 (Up-tempo and mid-tempo correctness, nice on white demo!) Linda Jones - I'm Taking Back My Love - Atco - WDJ Vg £75.00 (Amazing downbeat winner, up-tempo flip) King Ernest Baker - Some Body Some Where - Funk Ex+ £70.00 (Todays dance sound personified!) King Floyd - Times Have Changed - Pulsar Ex £25.00 (Couple of quality soulful dancers) floyd king-times-groovalin.mp3 Reggie Lamont - How Lonely - Blue Rock Ex+ DJ - £45.00 (Excellent dancer & ballad flip) The Lords - Since I Fell For You - Mikim -WDJ —s/s M- £25.00 (Classic soulful stepper) Pat Lundy - One Woman - Deluxe Ex+ £25.00 (Absolutely fabulous x over double sider) The Lyrics - Keep Me Close To Your Heart - J.W.J Ex - lbltr - £75.00 (Obscure Stafford era dancer & nice group ballad flip, a little label tear on both sides) Derek Martin - Sly Girl - Tuba M- £25.00 (Must have double sider!) LPT's - Together That's The Only Way - Labeat M- £100.00 (Timeless midpacer - this is the Masqueraders) Masqueraders - Be Happy For Me - Labeat M- £80.00 (Pretty much the same LPT’s just a little shorter) The Metros -The Dampness From Your - 123 Ex+ DJ - £100.00 (Class dancer & fabulous midpace flip) Lee Moore - I Been Down Too Long - Tri-City WDJ M- £50.00 (Nice and clean white demo with both sides (usually same both sides) Excellent soul) Lee Moses - Bad Girl - Musicor Ex+ Sltlblwr - £100.00 (Super duper record, proper vocalist) Sam Nesbit - Chase Those Clouds Away - Amos Ex+ £350.00 (Real nice double sider, don't come across this too often) Norvells - Why Do You Want To Make Me Sad - Penny Ex £30.00 (Up-tempo dancer that sounds a million $'s & perfect beat ballad flip) The Notations - You Should Know - Sue M- £250.00 ( Two grade a group dancers ) Tony Owens - Wishing, Waiting, Hoping - Soulin' WDJ S/S - Ex £45.00 (Nice New Orleans beat ballad) Steve Parks - Still Thinking Of You - Reynolds M- £40.00 (Nice soul ballad) Platinum Plus - Why Must We Part — Wayto Gold M- £250.00 (Modern dancer currently doing the rounds) Bobby Porter - I've Been Working - Roulette M- WDJ £40.00 (So Soulful Pair Of Late 70's Dancers) The Ramblers - So Sad - Trumpet Vg £300.00 (Nice group transitional sound - rare!) Rivingtons - You're Gonna Pay - Quan Ex+ £60.00 (Two tremendous group dancers) Rocky Roberts - Tell Me -Brunswick Ex+ B/B - £30.00 (Nice Stafford style mover & storming northern flip) Prince Johnny Robinson - That Girl Is Rated X - Andee M- £30.00 (Great Up-tempo & Downbeat Flip) Ron & The Embracers - You Came Into My Heart - Spectrum Vg- R/W £50.00 (Excellent left field dancer& Latin instrumental flip, I seem to remember John Pugh championing this many years ago?) Saxie Russell - Psychedelic Soul - Tomas Ex+ £400.00 (Crazy Northern classic on the first issue label spelling Tomas) Billy Sha-Rae - Do It - Spectrum Ex + £40.00 (Brilliant double sider) Soul Twisters - Swinging - Romat Vg- £40.00 (Obscure organ lead mod style movers) Charles Spurling - She Cried Just A Minute - King Vg r/w £80.00 (Top notch northern and deep soul, finally getting appreciated!) Edwin Starr - I'm So Into You - 20th Cent M- £10.00 (Quality Dancer From The Late 70’s) Warren Thompson -You Can't Hinder Me - Blue Candle Ex+ £40.00 (Oddball lightweight funk mover) 21st Century - Coming Right Back - Dot - WDJ Ex+ £200.00 (Excellent up-tempo infectious dancer, shadow of a memory on flip. Small pen marks on label) Tymes - Here She Comes - Parkway Ex+ £35.00 (Classic) Ublai Bey - Can't Get Enough Of Your Love - I.M.S Ex+ £50.00 (Infectious modern dancer sltwp) Art Wheeler - That's How Much I Love You - Cee Jam Ex+ WDJ - £150 .00 (Golden era northern & fantastic deep flip) Jannie Willams - I've Been True - Golden Eagle Ex £50.00 (Two Johnny Copeland songs, nice R&B, has some H2O issues on flip, similar to a copy I sold recently) Viola Wills - I've Got News For You - Supreme M- £50.00 (Absolutely brilliant soulful dancer & funky jam flip) Marva Whitney-This Girls In Love With You - King Poor- £15.00 (Two typical get up and go dancers from this super vocalist. In poor shape though) The Zircons - No Twistin' On Sunday - Federal Ex+ £35.00 (R&B dancers on this oddball federal number)

According to Steve Propes book "Old School 77 Years Of Southern California R&B Vocal Group Harmony Records 1934 - 2011 (A must have book for all anoraks IMO) the Furys according to Baritone Jerome Evans came out of the Cyclones on Forward with Charles Jackson & Ray Daugherty.

I watched the Elvis one and it was a great 90 minutes viewing. The Motown one should be every bit as good. Who chooses the panel that votes and how representative are they

Whilst it could be a good think, well any exposure is good I guess, it will be totally mainstream and can't see it going much beyond the chart stuff. Be interesting if could get something like Suspicion or Forever In My Heart in there?

Ace have had a download on site for sometime.

Anyone have a copy of this LP? No daft prices.

Terry/gordon just choked on whatever he is drinking, he loves this......not

I know, but if talkng bout a big record at leat give those responsible the credit, in this case both of them....who is talkin about the 80's?

I've just done a post on my blog for the release as well.... https://chalkster101.wordpress.com/2014/03/29/kentpied-piper-september-jones-voo-doo-madamoiselle/ I hope Kent/Ace can track the bootleggers down.

No I give credit where credit is due, something you fail to do. I don't deny Karl played it but I doubt you ever heard Dean play it so no idea of it's popularity then and IMO he deserves just as much credit as Karl for this record.

I know Andy Dyson got a handful off Roy Roberts and they went to the likes of Butch, Steve G, Andy himself etc etc.

Which venue was playing Roy Roberts first Matt, I presume you mean So In Love?

Ravins has been massive for Andy Dyson last few years alongside Henry C. Paul Vann "One Track Mind" as well. Proffs finally getting the recognition it deserves. Saints on Wigwam. Stormie Wynters "Lifesaver" Hopkins Brothers "Shake Sheri" Cosmos Band "Third Eye" Roy Roberst "So In Love" Bernard Drake on La Louisianne

Don't forget postage is included when customs work out the value.

It's all about opinions Phil and we all have different ones but that is the beauty of this scene. I would agree to me as well some of those listed are poor but to others they are great. I love Sir Joe (both sides and the Precisions). Tommy Dent I would agree with you, just a mess of a tune. But it would be boring if we all liked the same. I can't think of one DJ, one all-nighter or soul night in any era that hasn't played duffers. Everyone has played good and bad. You will never get an hour let alone a night where every record is right up anyones street.

reactivation, Dean Anderson first. Don't forget the other one, Things That A Lady. Take A Look goes back to the mid 80's though.

It was a 100 Club anniversary freebie around that time originally Dave, great record.

Great times Phil mate, glad you enjoyed them. Will be in the garage this weekend see what else I can find.

As the other tapes went down so well here is a second late 80's tape from Rob, enjoy! https://www.mixcloud.com/Chalkster/rob-marriott-late-80s-tape-number-2/

Some cover ups... Butch Little Ceasar, Jesse Davis and his Joe Adams Stop acetate. Andy Dysons Up The Hill cover up, not sure if he has given it an artist? And his Joe Cook cover up, I think that is what it is covered up as.

Was long time ago as it was Keb who found it with John Manship, not sure if Keb played it first or moved it on to Butch or if Butch found another copy.

Listed it twice for Andy D at 400 no takers. Sat in his box which went everywhere for some time. Finally sold it at Radcliffe. Not long after it went on an auction I think for 600 or so.

Great lp. I've been playing the track "Life Won't Be The Same" out and about, superb under the radar track IMO.