Chalky

John Manship joins Dean in the studio for the last show before Christmas.

I do and the lyrics certainly are? It is proper urban black dance music.

Deffo not unknown but not well known, will have to check if I grabbed a sound file off ebay. Would imagine same Mel Williams as on Star, Buddah, Chipper etc.

Have to agree, the music will always be there and be danced to and enjoyed, not as we know as the kids discovering it will forge their own way. There are already signs of change and attitude. Me, I just go to a select choice of a few venues and enjoy them for what they are. Our time is up if we are honest and we have had the best of it too. As you say Mick enjoy what we have left, none of us imagined still being around going to NS venues when we were kids. The youngster having an influence today still seem to be heavily into the vinyl and long may it continue. That will probably be watered down from the original only ethos to include reissues etc.

There isn’t a scene anymore, not as we knew it. Hardly any travellers and just a couple of 100 hardcore nighter goers. The music is oldies regardless of the type of venue you attend. There are a couple of cities with healthy clubs of younger folk but wait till they start having responsibilities. Whether the scene as it is is still here in 10, 20 or 30 years is irrelevant really but collectors will always be there. Whilst many big money buys are probably Dj driven right now, there are still collectors with little regard for the clubs who still chase such records . Personally I just buy for my own pleasure now, worry not about others.

Djing in Glasgow, pulled out half of my copy of The Attractions - Why Shouldn't A Man Cry

Many are offloading collections and choice items now, others have valued theirs so the canny (greedy) offspring will want maximum return, or become a ready made Dj themselves. We have had many topics regarding cheaper end records and there are plenty out there even for Djs who are prepared to dig a little and not just plagiarise playlists.

Emily Jane makes a welcome return to the studio for two hours off classy music.

Here is the actual real-history of this 45. As documented in June 2022 on the John Manship Wednesday auction. Welcome home old friend.. First discovered in a neat and tidy man-cave record-room, in Pittsburgh during an one of my early buying trips in May 1977. Taken back to the UK but not put up for sale, but instead straight into the DJ box covered up as "Lenny Curtis - Not Another Day" featuring as my last spin of my sets for over a year; becoming an iconic Cleethorpes Winter Gardens, finale play. To rise up from that lowly position to high priority on east-coast collectors wish lists - and has remained there ever since. The “Cleethorpes” DJ habit for playing something slower than the norm, very soulful as their exit disc, started out as an “in” joke because the next DJ would be playing to a nearly empty dance floor, which was all in good fun to begin with. But when Tony Middleton’s “Paris Blues” rose from a funeral paced Beat Ballad stroller into an unlikely dancefloor packer, the search was on for similar discs to spin last, giving an identity to your DJ set. This 45 and "Paris Blues" added to the rich texture of diversity the Cleethorpes days were built upon. After a year I moved it onto the to fellow Cleethorpes DJ Nev Wherry, who went on to lift its popularity even higher. The next copy found ended up at Wigan Casino and Arin Demain's journey from Pittsburgh, Pa. to one of the most-wanted Northern Soul record of the late 70's was complete. Very few copies have been discovered since, the rarity provenance of this fabulous tune, is now set in stone and still talked about and salivated over 47 years later. So now enter “Ernie Lucas” with a perfect candidate, by any standard of the times “Silent Treatment” may have slower than the norm, but shimmering with so much “Real Soul” the appreciation grew and grew so that this disc joined “Paris Blues” in adjusting dancefloor tastes. Today after decades of fruitless searches and challenging quests of trying to grapple a copy away from the few known owners, or sniping a copy on the internet, ends usually in total frustration for most all who have tried - in short this is one thoroughly Soulful 45 that is damn-difficult to acquire - but we all love a collecting challenge don't we. Nev Wherry at the time in 1978 was working for John Manship Records at 25 Baldocks Lane, Melton Mowbray I was glad to sell him my copy, to keep the "Lenny Curtis" legacy going, which he did so well.

Don’t think it credits them as the first just who was spinning it at the time cause half the records on that compilation weren’t first played by the Dj named if I remember correctly. Arin Demain was a John Manship discovery from a trip to Pittsburgh. He made it a Cleethorpes biggie before selling it to Nev after a year.

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Wouldn’t have thought worthy of inclusion in this topic though?

No will try another route

The New Yorkers (Tac-Ful 101) - £600 The Majestics (Linda 121) - £477.77 The Dynamics (Top Ten 100) - £380 Cliff Nobles (J-V 1034) - £750 The Construction (Sync 6 924) - £1,810 Soul Communicaters (Fee Bee 221) - £1,550 Earl Jackson (ABC 11142 dj) - £725 The Fi-Dels (Keymen 106) - £290 Bobby Shannon (To-Mar 0011) - £483 Darrow Fletcher (Jacklyn 1006) - £170 Jimmy Ruffin (Miracle 1 dj) - £165 The Singing Swinging Counts (The Label 1112) - £306 PS Didn't see the end prices underneath each scan....should get me glasses on LOL

Just read The Man From Muscle Shawls - Rick Hall story and now reading Betty Layettes.

Bootlegs if they are being sold, whims the well known Dj?

Andy "Tats" Taylor joins Dean in the studio for two hours of quality music and anything else that could happen.

Discogs is same as eBay with all fees added at checkout

It's Summer (Barrett Strong-Norman Whitfield) published Jobete 15-Jun-68 Gladys Knight & The Pips; recorded Hitsville-GW, completed 23-Apr-68 ; produced by Norman Whitfield 08-Aug-68; 45 (M): Soul S 35047 B Sep-69; LP (S): Soul SS713 The Nitty Gritty May-93; CD (S): Spectrum 550 074 2 You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling [UK] 06-Nov-06; CD (S): Motown 984 1939 Silk 'N' Soul / The Nitty Gritty [UK] 03-Oct-07; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0009708-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 8 1968 The Temptations; recorded Hitsville-GW, completed 31-Jan-70 ; produced by Norman Whitfield ; [v1, lead Mel Franklin] 06-Mar-70; LP (S): Gordy S947 Psychedelic Shack 07-May-70; 45 (M): Gordy G 7099 B 23-Oct-00; CD (S): Motown 159 445 2 Psychedelic Shack / All Directions [UK] 27-Jun-08; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0011056-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 10 1970 07-Oct-11; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0154942-02 50th Anniversary | The Singles Collection 1961-1971 The Temptations; recorded Hitsville-GW, completed 24-May-71 ; produced by Norman Whitfield ; arranged by Jerry Long ; [v2, lead Dennis Edwards] 24-Jun-71; 45 (M): Gordy G 7109F A Oct-71; LP (S): Tamla Motown STML11191 Motown Chartbusters Volume 6 [UK] 07-Jan-72; LP (S): Gordy G961L Solid Rock 13-Apr-92; CD: Motown MOTD 5480 Solid Rock 16-Feb-93; CD (M): Rhino R2 71180 Hum Along And Dance 20-Sep-94; CD (S): Motown 530 338 2 Emperors Of Soul 02-Nov-98; CD (S): Spectrum 554 149 2 Motown Chartbusters Volume 6 [UK] 02-Aug-99; CD: Spectrum 530 795 2 My Girl [UK] 09-Dec-08; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0011579-02 The Complete Motown Singles Vol. 11A 1971 07-Oct-11; CD (M): Hip-O Select B0154942-02 50th Anniversary | The Singles Collection 1961-1971

Doesn’t sound like Edwards tbf on the above video, its certainly not Franklin as you can hear him behind

It is selling well so don’t sleep on this one.

Its supposed to be Edwards on lead. Williams, Kendricks and Ruffin weren’t with the group at the time.

It's everything you want IMO in an all-nighter record. It wasn't just the Mello Souls at the time either, every record in Butch's set and the other Dj's at the time. It was a great time for Northern Soul.