Chalky

I've also got this down as Timothy Wilson.

It was yes, dunno why I haven't mentioned it.

Colin got RG off Jimmy, Jimmy had done nothing with it though.

I remember Rob spinning it Mark, sure Steve Phyliss will confirm if Jimmy played it.

Did the Chris Bartley go to Jimmy as well Kev ?

He did Kev. Jimmy doesn't get tne recognition he deserves although he never seemed to really pusg ir oromote himself.

I believe when he sold up he bought some fairground rides that he used to have on Thorsby Market. That was years ago, don't know what he is doing now.

I don't have the Bob Fowler.

Cheers Steve, did Rob get the Funny Face Girl acetate from Jimmy?

Definitely different as the credits and recorded at are missing. More than 10 available as well....

I remember Rob playing it so he could've got it from Jim?

Ace collector and DJ who had a collection most just dream about. Any roads, I'm still looking for some titles of 45's he was playing back in the mid 80's, I need half a dozen or so to complete a second podcast. Can anyone help? here is what I have so far....cover up name in brackets. Charmianes - Standing In The Need Of Love - April & Blackwood Acetate (Sandi Sheldon) Joan Baker - Everybody’s Talking - Diamond (Bettye LaVette) Bernard Williams & The Original Bluenotes - Tears Tell The Whole Sad Story - Virtue Acetate. Re-Vells - I Want A New Love - Trent Town Ty Karim - You Really Made It Good To Me - Romark Tina Roberts - One Way Or The Other - Security (Honey & The Bees) Admirations - You Left Me - Peaches Richard Anthony - Keep On Living On - Virtue Jimmy Armstrong - Mystery - Shrine James Wesley Smith - Talkin’ About Women - Angel Town Cheques - Deeper - Heatwave Van McCoy - Sing Yeah Sing - Unissued Studio Acetate Boss Four - Walking By - RIM (The Fascinators - Just Wakin By) George Lemons - Fascinating Girl - Gold Soul Janeen Henry - Baby Boy - Blue Rock Mary Hunt - I Want To Love And Be Loved - Soul Mate (Alice Clark) Benny Harper - My Prayer - Harper Soul Out Of Sights - For The Rest Of My Life - Saru (Sammy Campbell - My Baby She's Gone) Ralph Graham - She Just Sits There - Upfront (Monster bit later for Colin Law covered up very briefly Tommy Navarro as James Conwell) Dynamic Three - She Said Yeah - Del Val Magnetics - Count The Days - Sable Del- Chontays - Baby I Love You - Steeltown Debonaires - Come Back Baby - Soul Click (Tempos) Speedlimit - Can’t Say No - Cutlass Acetate Citations - (To Win The Race) Keep The Faith - Ballad (Magnificent Men) Soulettes - Bring Your Fine Self Home - Scope Romona Collins - You’ve Been Cheating - Clark’s Flairs - You Got To Steal It - RAP (Ventures) Two Plus Two - Love Will Conquer All - Ditto (Servicemen) Gracie Dumas - Song Of A Woman - El Dorado Acetate/J-Gems Betty Wilson - I’m Yours - Dayco Chico Lamarr - Who Do You Think You Are - Fuller Eric Mercury - Lonely Girl - SAC Jesse Davis - Gonna Hang On In There Girl - Era J.D. Bryant - I Won’t Be Coming Back – Shrine More Jimmy Patti Austin " Always bee in style " A&R acetate (Ad-libs ) The Precisions "Sense of direction "Hen-mar Linda Rae " The time for love is now " Mike Cleveland Wilson " shooting high " Audio disc acetate ( O.C.Tolbert) B.B.Carter " cool it baby " Kris c/u Baby Washington Dave Charles " Aint gonna cry no more " Donnie Ruby Andrews " Just loving you " Zodiac C.V.Horn " Love is a situation " Della The Donnels " Everybody don't know " Alpha c/u The Sapphires Robert Tennard " Gotta get Goin " Fabolus The Fascinators "In other words " Bombay Vince & Connie " I bear witness "acetate Honey & the bees " be yourself " Academy The Temptations " Angel doll " motown acetate Linda Griner " Goodbye cruel world " Motown Eddie Holland " I'm on the outside looking in " Motown Johnny Summers –I’m Still Yours - Yorktown

Royalties will be paid to whoever the songwriter is and who owns the rights which in most cases won't be those who sang it. Me, I'm eternally grateful for companies like Kent, Numero, Soul junction, Secret Stash and others as this scene would be poorer if they hadn't put the time and effort in to bring us some simply superb soul music and the scene is a better place for some of it. Now those who do it to deceive, be them bootleggers or DJ's should be burnt at the stake.

I think most would agree the commercialisation has gone to far or is heading that way with nothing sacred on a once cool scene. Original vinyl does seem to be taking a back seat. But I don't see anyone knocking Kent, Soul Junction, even Goldmine/Soul Supply Sevens seem to be getting widely accepted these days why I don't know? So why should Secret Stash be suffering the wrath of collectors? IMO they have done a fantastic job bringing some superb unreleased as well as remastered work from the M-Pac/One-Derful/Mar-V-Lus stable. The unissued Sharpees, The Otis Clay given away with the first LP release, absolutely superb examples of uptempo Chicago Soul, and down tempo if you flip them, as good as anything I've heard in the last couple of years. As said it is all above board, with the co-operation of the Leaner Brothers Estate and some seriously hard work has gone into the reproduction and remastering. As someone else said what should they do just leave it there to rot? Should Kent, Soul Junction, Secret Stash and others not bother just to satisfy collectors? I'm not particularly fond of look-a-like labels but in this case they are done in conjunction with the rightful owners. The other release on Secret Stash's own label, they have done nothing to deceive. This scene is really up its own arse at times, some going that far up it they are stuck there. Some should really start taking it up with those who post up the wants lists of boots etc, start reporting the bootleggers on ebay, stop supporting the venues that play the things if they feel that strongly about it.

Another excellent article and another worthy inclusion to the HOF.

There is also an interesting book for a couple of quid on amazon by Henry about payola and record dealing business, well worth a read. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stone-Cold-Truth-Payola-Music-ebook/dp/B00C7FJ8VS/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425721756&sr=1-4&keywords=henry+stone

Trouble is there was and still is so many promoters and all probably believe they deserve a mention and in an ideal world do deserve a mention but as you say no book would be big enough. I can remember plenty of all-nighters that were very good but there was only the one.

I tend not to believe many prices on ebay these days. So many sellers have their mates bidding the price up, money laundering etc etc....

What evidence do you need? They have posted scans of the origianl tape boxes etc? Everything is above board and they have done a great job. The LP's are superb as are the unreleased tracks that have been issued so far. They are not out to deceive anyone, they are not bootlegging unlike the previous releases of look a like lable ringleader releases. I'm not sure how the Sharpees which is fantastic or the Ringleaders can be classed as dud takes? Secret Stash have IMO done just as good a job as Kent with the Leaner Brothers material.

The book consists of text from the In Crowd up to the closure of Wigan. Post Wigan is what I wrote, about 6000 words from Clifton Hall up to today. Obviously I haven't mentioned every venue as there have been 100's since 1981. Nor have I mentioned soul nights except for a few that for me had an influence on the scene. Again some will disagree and think such and such a venue should have been included but I simply didn't have the space nor the time as I was on a tight deadline.

depends how much gear (has it kicked in) and beer the dancers have had as well

Hazel Martin was lead on Someday, he is to these ears. You only have to listen to Hazel Martin singing Out Of My Life to tell they are the same singer.

What it is all about mate.

City centre are an exception. They have universities and will as a rule attract a younger crowd. However most don't travel and I would imagine most leave the scene once they have settled into adult life. But on the scene generally the more mature amongst us vastly out number the youngsters.

Nothing new would ever get played if DJ's were afraid of clearing the floor. Some of the biggest records about cleared the floor when first aired. Again it is a question of getting the balance right.