Chalky

I also have to disagree, you can’t be looking too hard if you think new releases are a bit thin on the ground. I would imagine the review from 66 is also a tiny fraction of records released with plenty released at that time that were of interest to us.

But Richard was a Clifton Hall resident as well as Wigan. Arthur and Sam also did a fair few trades with Richard so maybe some did start life at Snaith and then onto the Casino/Clifton Hall.

I've been doing a list of events from 1980 onwards. Early 81 was the first mention of a venue as being Modern Soul, the Oak Hotel, Shrewsbury, Modern Soul Sounds 70s & 80s. That is the first reference in echoes. The first all-nighter event reference to Modern Soul, Phil Armstrong's True Soul niter at Belindas in Leeds. Modern Soul Room with Richard, Sam and Arthur. Clifton Hall up to 82 was basically oldies and a continuation of what was happening at Wigan, Richard featuring plenty of modern, as did Pat, Poke, Steve Mannion and Sean Hampsey. No reference to it though. It was as I said earlier newies or 60s and 70s. 1981/2 would be the birth of the Modern Soul scene as a scene on its own. As more and more Modern Soul was featured the 60s crowd began to feel pushed out and we would see the rise of the 6ts Mafia. There would be still plenty of modern featured in main rooms but we would begin to see the second room for Modern sounds and over the next few years Modern Soul would practically disappear from all-nighters with just maybe one Dj who did an hour of 70s and the Modern Soul crowd would go their own way.

But it isn’t impossible, you've just described how it should be, always evolving, anything else is an oldie.

The term “Modern Soul” wasnt used to describe what was being played until 1981/2. Shrewsbury Soul Club the first to use it and Sam the first to use when referring to the records, early Backbeat reviews. Prior to this they were still newies which encompassed both 60s, 70s and new releases. Shrewsbury and Snaith were probably the two leading modern soul venues at the time.

Lets face it the only reason many of the northern crowd like some of the recent stuff is because it is pretty retro, they wouldn’t dream of touching the stuff that they cannot dance to like they can 60s and 70s unless they can rip someone off. There is though plenty of good new music out there to satisfy whatever part of the fence you sit on, retro or modern As for the term Northern Soul, I actually like it, it gave us an identity and still does despite getting hijacked by divvies in more recent times.

But you can say the same for any decade, 70s Carstairs very much different to anything before it on the scene. Music progresses, instruments fall in and out of favour, techniques change. You cannot expect today's music to sound like it did 50 years ago otherwise it is just retro. There are venues out there that play more recent things but if you want stuff that sounds like 60s or 70s you might be disappointed.

The Northern Crowd still refer to 70s as modern because they haven’t moved on. In reality it is nothing of the sort, its 70s soul, 80s soul and so on modern in any genre is new, up to date or at the very least recent.

There is a signed 45 in a previous topic

There is a previous topic somewhere with details.

Ebay feedback is for me easy, no problems getting to it. Here it might just be that the topic for the sale could take a bit of finding once a week or two has past.

Pretty sure John Anderson said he got 100s of copies of GR.

I’ve let Larry know but as Hadley and James Mitchell co wrote both sides I don’t hold much hope out.

At a guess Hadley Murrell probably behind it in some capacity, I will ask Larry if he has received anything.

a must for all soul lovers.... https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/music/marvin-gaye-you-re-the-man

https://solidhitsoul.com/dellarks.html

I have a pdf copy to tie you over if you want it. Sure its been posted on here in the past?

But this isn’t from a major but an individual? Surely, even the dumbest can see there are no licensing issues, they are second hand. Surely they must ask for proof of ownership etc?

1st issue but 2nd pressing run, still the original whichever colour

Clearly she or her fathers estate have no legal claims to a product of which the rights are owned by Universal, its crazy and I can’t believe discogs just bow down to her.

It isn’t enough though and would easily be challenged. There are no royalties or any monies due from the sale of second hand records. There are no licensing issues. Neither is this an issue about bootlegging. She has had everything her fathers name is attached to blocked I don’t know who is advising her but they are clearly wrong. Sounds to be she is simply giving the instructions and the lawyers are just following them.

I wouldn’t need a scan. I think if George says it is immaculate then his word would be good enough, he isn’t one of yer cowboy sellers that is for sure.

“A way of life” I have a mate, old work mate, he always liked the music but never at the forefront, his brother was an old soulie who left the scene with Wigan. Last few years though he does the soul nights locally, Skegness Butlins, BISF etc, has a scooter with way of life on the side yet never he went anywhere, not even the local nights years ago, he was never been part of the scene.

Yes it is world wide but I dare bet it is a brit driving the prices of these classics. Apart from a few rich ones with more money than sense most collectors use their common sense. Anyone could have offered say £75 for this prior to the auction and snagged a copy.