Chalky

The Decca group consist of Bobby Byrd and Earl Nelson. Pretty sure none of the Tangiers on other labels are the same group as our Baltimore group. https://doo-wop.blogg.org/tangiers-2-c26505418

Upon looking the Tangiers on Decca look like they are the Hollywood Flames.

They were The Tangiers before they became the Tangeers. Possibly the same group with the Jetsons (Pumpkin & Date). The Pumpkin one though is said to be Charlie Rich sped up? Maybe they were named after a nightclub, popular name at one time, or after something in a movie? Maybe Steve can shed some light on this?

The one for auction is on Stag and is far rarer. Not worth 3k to me though, it is to someone though Wasnt too long ago Dr Bird was a fraction of the popsike prices.

But Elijah wasn’t in the Tangeers, nor were any of the TNJs or Instant Funk according to any of the documented material we have. We are just getting sidetracked.

Totally barmy.

JM Auction last night W alter Jackson It’s An U phill Climb To The Bottom / Tear For Tear Columbia: DB 7949 DJ (45s) A glorious British rarity from one of the greatest black voices of the last century. Walter Jackson the celebrated Detroit/Chicago crooner with his most-desirable recording in its rarest format. A red & white B ritish DEMO in near perfect condition. Just to underline where Walter Jackson’s standing in Soul fan’s estimation was, can I relay a story told to me decades ago, when I used to visit one of the greatest record stores in the USA. John Goddard’s “Village Music” in the “Back To The Future” town of Mill Valley, California. Not only the most beautiful setting for a record shop, ever. But John Goddard’s store was festooned with original Bay Area concert posters, gig flyers & events he’d attended. Plus the wonderful array of 45s and albums that was quite staggering. There I was digging for 45’s, I put a Walter Jackson on Okeh in my pile, and said to John, “Walter was my all-time favourite singer.” John replied he saw him live in small club in San Francis co before Walter was known, he had only a couple of singles for Columbia at the time and John wasn’t sure what to expect. But he went along because the advert mentioned Chicago and Soul singer.. In a small atmospheric Jazz club, the MC with sparkl ing enthusiasm introduced Walter Jackson, who to the audience’s amazement entered the stage on crutches. There was no mention of Walter being a victim of Polio. Under the spotlight of the darkened nite-spot Walter’s celestial voice soared across the space. John’s face lit up as he retold the experience. He had never heard a voice anything like it before. The whole audience was transfi xed for nearly an hour, as Walter crooned out heartstopping standards plus his only two recordings so far.. finishing with “Then Only Then”. 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Both of those gorgeous promo labels are flawless. £639.00 Sorry, this auction has ended. 17/04/2019 18:06 Listen Glen Miller Where Is The Love / Funky Broadway Stag : 3168 (45s) In short one of my all time favourite 45's.. Staggeringly good - spectacularly rare! A listing for those of you determined to own the top end Northern Soul 45 to DJ with. A record that never fails to draw applause, from the few DJ who can play it. Click the soundfile and drool... this is just STUNNING NORTHERN SOUL! miss this opportunity and live a lifetime of vinyl-regre t. Condition Report Ting fade name £2,839.00 Sorry, this auction has ended. 17/04/201 9 18:02 Listen Lil Gray Are You Fooling / I Want To Tell Jerma: 101 (45s) A seriously elusive 1965 authentic original press, of this addictive Chicago Northern Soul R&B mover, delivered by the searing Sister vocal of Leoncy Lloyd. Opening up with the pulsating guitar rhythms of Ulyesses Warren inviting Leoncy’s convincing voice to step into this compelling mid-tempo dancer, quickly enhanced by the addition of subtly stabbing horns. The three components fuse togerther beautifully, into a convincing dance session; saturated in everything we adore about Chicago. Even the neighborhood printing of the labels has it’s cha rms, when after two attempts to get the typesetting right. This press comes out with the first “O” in FOOLING appearing as the number “0”. With the another adjustment to the letters they reset the label, but failed to notice “You” was set in lower casing. Personally I’m drawn to these D.I.Y. street-level anomalies on these irresistible labels. Nothing like, though, as irresistible as “Lil Gray’s” singing style. Her uncanny ability to hold a note with that stinging vocal, then slowing tra nsforming a word into a soothing hum... once again U.S. Warren steps in to strut his prowess with the guitar, fabulous stuff! A captivati ng example of urban Chicago Soul/R&B by a lady who unfortunately only recorded 3 45’s in all, all in sequence for label owner Mr. Warren. Then sadly she disappeared off the recording scene... Leaving the rare soul collector and the DJ with much to seek out... Condition Report Two bright clean ice-blue labels, minuscle flake on the a-side bottom of the centre-hole dink (see image) b-side label is perfection.<br /> <br /> Vinyl is a strong clean, prev iously unplayed Mint minus, only revealing the finest sleeve contact hairlines under direct light. Plays perfect, looks stunning. £324.00 Sorry, this auction has ended. 17/04/2019 18:02 Listen P. J. City Straight Forward / Look Around Rise : 2-61254 (45s) A delicious classy 1986 Chicago Funk / Modern Soul groove, backed up with an excruciating ballad. Top side, gives up a lengthy lead in, deliver a fanfare soaring horns, thumping percussion, silvery cymbals; all peppered with Wah-Wah guitar riffs; A potent cocktail, just ideal for a compelling lead voice, to bang out the lyrics. All validated by a shrill chorus running along side a sizzling synth. The mix screams DANCE in every language. flip it over and you scholars of tight, Sweet Soul can bathe in the excellence of this beseeching ballad. The lead vocal so much more effective once the backing arrangement is soften to glorious trickle of support. There is no group support but his voice in so emotionally controlled, it doesn't require any frills. Instead the chorus comes from a highly skilled caressing of guitars... as the breaks elevate this song into greatness. Two contrasting but superb sides, a 45 that pleases both camps of Soul fans.. Meeting the demands of Club-Dance plus offering up a decidedly moving slab of Soul on the flipside. Condition Report Two clean labels, crisp unblemished vinyl. Strong Mint - throughout £304.00 Sorry, this auction has ended. 17/04/2019 18:00 Listen Chuck Wright The Palm Of Your Hand / Don’t Play That Dance Ember: E-1091 (45s) The rarely encountered BLACK stock copy in spectacular condition. This 1963 New Yorker bristles with all those characteristics of 1963 Latin infused, big production beaters benefitting from influences of the “Brill Building” this 45 incorporating 3 of it’s graduates. Jeff Barry, Artie Resnick & Bert Keyes all contribute to this potent mid-tempo Northern Soul winner. Rippling with all the ingredients that make a Northern Soul hipshaker great. Amazing though they trio decided the “Dance Craze” recordsing “Don’t Play That Dance” was the side to lead with. Big mistake as it fell flat, with the sing of the tedium of the “Mash Potato”. Like so many times, it’s the far superior flipside that was picked up by the Northern Soul & Popcorn scenes. Perfect fuel for both establishments. Today Chuck Wright is still bubbling away in the minds of collectors... with DJ’s looking for something to reactivate.. “the Palm Of Your Hand ” is the perfect candidate. Real quality never fades, it still ripples with the “Monster” dancefloor potential it just missed out on first time round.. I just love this record, the richness of the vocal, imprisoned in Latin rhythms, sizzling girl choruses, swirling Hammond break, encouraging handclaps, enthusiastic Tambourine shaking.. so MOD, so Northern, so Popcorn.. it ticks all the boxes Condition Report Two clean labels, beautiful Mint minus unblemished vinyl. Rare condition indeed for this disc. £132 Rose Battiste Hit & Run / I Miss My Baby Revilot : RV 204 (45s) When it comes to Northern Soul anthems in the coveted white demo format, this one takes some beating. On an iconic label, giving up not one but two sumptuous example of real-deal Detroit Northern Soul from the desks of George McGregor & Don Davis and the pen of Cody Black. One of the ultimate Northern Soul anthems in it's rarest form...Do not sleep on this one, records of this calibre rarely surface for sale. THIS IS PROPER NORTHERN SOUL - twice over Condition Report two clean promo labels, reveals light hairlines under direct light, nothing that effects the crisp clarity of the playback. Looks Ex plays MInt minus. No hint whatsoever of having Northern Soul circuit fatique. £557.00 Sorry, this auction has ended. 17/04/2019 18:00 Listen Ted Cassidy as LURCH The Lurch / Wesley Capitol : CL 15423 DJ (45s) From the desk of Gary Paxton, to the turntables of the equally legendary Nev Wherry; this Northern Soul spin was such a novelty at the time when Nev amazingly dropped it at Cleethorpes Winter Gardens one day. It became, like most of Nev's off-the-wall play choices, a record room topic of conversation and subsequently a cult item. For the obvious reasons of being utterly different to anything the Winter Gardens congregation had ever heard before.. Gary Paxton was the "King" of novelty already smashing the Billboard and worldwide charts with "Monster Mash". But Gary also had a ear and talent for a Northern Soul tune or two. Thelma Houston's - "Baby Mine", Mary Saxton's - "Losing Control" just two that jump to mind. But also had a gift for a crafting a hit. He saw in the Addams Family star "The Lurch" a chance for another "Monster Mash". This time his inspiration missed the mark, and fail to sell. The USA counterpart also on Capitol record is no easy find either. But as a British Red & White Demo this is a serious 45 with not only the attraction of rarity but also the attraction of being a cool collectors piece not too may UK collectors can boast of owning. Especially in flawless condition. so cum'on do "The Lurch", search YouTube " Ted Cassidy" "The Lurch" and the super-hip dance craze that only just failed to sweep across America! But for a short while grabbed the full attention of Cleethorpes faithful. "The Lurch" a legacy of Nev Wherry's diversity behind the decks, and memories of an initially startled crowd, that in the end took "The Lurch" into their hearts. Condition Report A flawless red & white Demo, with impeccable like new vinyl, strong clean Mint minus. Unblemished £84 Jimmy Thomas Everyday ( I Wake Up Crying ) / Pocket Change Soto Play : SO 0026 (45s) This weeks obscure R&B romp comes out of Los Angeles; from the rasping vocal of a young 23 year old Jimmy Thomas, his first solo recording whilst Jimmy was an integral part of the Ike Turner's "Kings Of Rhythm". Before advancing into a team member of the Ike & Tina Turner Revue; here his the talented Thomas on Nathaniel McCoy's highly regarded "Soto Play" label the home of so many highly prized 45s. George Allen, Willie Mae "Big Mama" Thornton jump to mind. The side we lead with was written by Jimmy Thomas himself, drawing heavily from Memphis Slim's " Everyday I Have The Blues ". GIven more pace, passion and drive; elevated by a full-on Bluesy/Jazz backing most likely provided by his buddies at in the "Kings Of Rhythm". A barrage of brass, rattling percussion and wild blues guitar that comes to the fore with a magnificent solo part. Really strong L.A. 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A fine clean copy. £88 Wallace Petty Roping Okra / Petty Cash Lo-Lace : 707 (45s) This week's MOD/R&B offering comes in the form of this unicorn-rare December 1964 instrumental on it's first label "Lo-Lace". Issued 18 months later on Leon Gardner's Igloo label. But that surely doesn't matter too much as the Igloo press is insanely rare also. Both sides giving up an instrumental dance-cocktail of Jazz, R&B, Blues, Funk & Soul. Both sides written by this neighbourhood guitar wizard and both offering up killer Hammond/Guitar dance pulses, so fine you'll be constantly changing your mind which side is the best? Don't worry just get both on the turntables, they work equally well as extracting the MOD in you... "Roping Okra" is the more subtle side, showcasing the most of Wallace's silky guitar manipulation; as it glides through on a wave of pouting saxophone blows and Hammond organ rhythms. A thoroughly addictive, classy D.I.Y. release for the locals.. 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Condition Report Two clean labels, NO BIDS Thelma Lindsey Prepared To Love You / Why Weren’t You There Magic City: MC 005 (45s) It matters both a jot, which side you drop the stylus on, the result will be exactly the same. Two spectacular Detroit Diva delights hit you smack between eyes. As you will hear how flawless the vinyl is, as you can see one of Detroit’s most attractive labels are crisp, bright and perfect also. Achieve condition, is only one reason why this 45 is on auction.. The other reason speaks for itself - a double helping of top drawer Northern Soul is just as click away...sending out a far stronger ownership message ... far stronger than I could ever convey. Condition Report Two brilliantly clean labels, full colour not a hint of ring wear, fade or any other flaw. £412

There is another as well for 233. Dodgy if you ask me at first glance.

Dodgy? Do you have the link?

I haven’t watched mate, only got me phone st the minute and hard work on that. Need to charge laptop too.

I think the two line ups given say otherwise, at least until they can be disproved? I would imagine the people concerned were involved with plenty of groups. Do we know if the TNJs went to Baltimore or Bucky etc to Trenton, the latter looking at the various writings.

My guess is Ron Bollon and Plato did the production at their own company and leased the two sides to Okeh.

“She’s Not Ready” was not copyrighted until March 196& and was plugged in billboard in May 1968 under the distributors info. It is also in a radio chart of some sort for that year in April. It only just predates the Tangeers. The info above is on 45cat.

He is mentioned here for starters as a group member https://www.trentonmakesmusic.org/article/the-tnjs/

I’ve yet to see a link even if there was and what links have been given seem a little far fetched.

TNJs of course. Think yer clutching at straws mate personally.

Nope, Elijah Jones, one of the group.

Given all the time and effort Steve put in maybe you should buy the book Where is the scan from? I have the book but not got round to reading yet.

The TNJs were all male, a photo on discogs shows them as a 5 piece. The Tan Geers has at least one female singer and Earl Beall doesn’t figure in the TNJs from what we know.

According to biographies the East Coast Topics last 45 was ‘76. This one is ‘77 and West Coast and a N. Sanders heavily involved, Nelson Sanders? Discogs does put them together as the same group but as that is user input it is hardly surprising.

As said I doubt it is the same Earle Beall as the Silhouettes Earl Beale. I also doubt he’s the son of Not sure what a reformed Silhouettes has to do with The Tan Geers?

No need to apologise, should've made it clearer who I was referring to initially. I hope you did well out of it and Scarboro is equally a success. I visited three shops but they had bugger all soul in apart from the box set at 70 odd quid and the Parliaments 10" disc.

I had a restriction with regards the number of words for the sleeve notes. As you say the weekenders you mention were not northern really, Berwick might just have qualified but the first proper northern ones were Yarmouth, that is the start really of the weekender popularity. There was others before I know but they weren’t the annual or twice yearly piss up that Yarmouth and then Cleethorpes became. Yarmouth and Cleethorpes before Fleetwood and any of the Northern Weekenders we have now, Prestatyn was a long time after really. Soul Essence also deserves a mention as many of us frequented the venue and still do.

think we all appreciate what shops do and in no way was I having a dig at Godz, it is those above, the distributors and the record companies.

he also looks similar to the guy on the right, could also be the guy sat down.