Chalky

This weeks show, 3rd June 2021 More 3,2,1 selections from listeners

Brad Hales sold an acetate a few years ago with an alt take on it. Did one go through one of the auctions houses recently too? Just remembered think it was JM who auctioned the orange vinyl copy.

This weeks Sound of Soul ™ 27th May

Some labels do put a stamp in the dead wax matrix tansy which master etc 1a, 1B etc

I agree of course it is original though it is a different master. A three step process, if it equates to 100.000 discs, then 1.000.000 would be on the 10th master. A release if kept on catalogue can be pressed for years. Many even stayed on the charts for months and well over a year. Until it is deleted or reissued with a different master number,, label etc then it will be original despite being a long time down the line.

The stampers wear, you might get more you might get less but wouldn’t be too far out either way.

For all those hung up on represses, originals, second issues.....even million sellers have lots of masters and represses. How original is the millionth press? Some interesting reading into the process of making a record. In a two-step process, the Father plate is converted into a stamper, and the Mother is shelved for future use. In a three step process, the Mother is plated to make the stamper plates. One Father plate can produce 10 Mother plates, and one Mother can produce 10 stampers. Each stamper can produce about 1000 vinyl records. Therefore, a two-step process can produce a maximum of about 11,000 records before a remastering has to be done, and a three step process can produce up to about 100,000 vinyl records before remastering. https://www.classic45s.com/why45s/process.html?fbclid=IwAR14LMhJHwozRe1SOY0pjzTsWr4r206tck0fPXRXO5MVQrD_ZfrEmgW5b6Y

You also have to remember that one set of stampers is only good for a 1000 presses give or take. So one acetate creates a father from which several mother are created and from the mothers you get the daughters which are the stampers, I think thats the process from memory. All stages will wear before the whole process is started again, if you sell enough records. from one acetate, two mothers would have been created minimum from which you get at least two sets of offspring, one for each side. That would be your two runs. One set of off spring for each plant if there was two plants or the two individual runs. it could also be just one run with two sets of labels.

Garry and John A had a 100. They did a deal with a distributor for T.K. Stock but had to take a 100 count of every record not just what they wanted.

The label was probably changed as they didn’t have the original artwork? Maybe it was another plant who simply laid the design out differently If something sells you do another run, thats how all releases are done including number ones, pressed to demand Its rare, I wouldn’t say very rare, just not obtainable as it is a keeper. Also a reissue would be done from new master.

Sassy was first, local label. A distribution deal was done with Gamble thats why Billy Jackson still had all the Sassy stock. Think it was nearer a 1000 that Neil eventually got, 800 initially? Which was first in the Uk dunno, thought it was Curtis not Levine as well?

No it doesn’t and you know that as well. Every big seller is pressed in batches, they simply don’t press 10.000s at a time. Its simply another run. Besides no one knows which was first.

Yes I was aware but the dance floors over here still don't know it and it would probably clear most dance floors. "You Got To Do Your Share" another cracker by her.

I agree and never really made it, I doubt the mainstream know it at all

We’ve had cd swaps here and elsewhere over the years I’ve been transferring tapes I’ve still got, a few 4/500 or so

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/taxes-import-charges?id=4121

It was issued for commercial gain for the very first time on the usual pink label imprint. The fact they were all sold to the UK is irrelevant, they are not reissues.

Doesn’t really affect you does it? I didn’t go to the last one but done the previous ones with no issues. Didn’t wear a mask but I sanitised often.

I think or I heard he was asked to press the Carstairs not a case of him rebuilding after the failure of Chess/GRT, by John Anderson maybe? The pink ones are issues, not reissues, done for commercial reasons just like any other release. It never had a commercial release so cannot be a reissue.

The Redd Coach distribution deal with Chess records ended so with no distribution for the Carstairs it would be pointless pressing it. The issues were done to order at a later date for the UK scene, not the US market.

Nothing intriguing, they were recorded/ mastered at different times. “I’ll tell the world” was previously released as an instrumental b side on a sunlovers 45. MBCFOONW exists I believe on a one sided 45, Joey obviously had no flip for it or pressed as an early promo to get it on the radio stations and then added the other side later. Not the only time he has pressed a single sided 45.

It had no chart success, it was never issued for sale in the USA.

Levine did hear it in the States but couldn’t get the radio station to part with it. He got his copy from Soul Bowl. Its all documented if people care to do a bit of research.

The x signifies the b side

Ted Taylor 790 quid jeez. some fools have been parted from their money again tonight…..