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There is some guy photocopying real labels and sticking them on to bootlegs, he does mention this on his listings but in somewhat smaller type than the main description Really don't see the point of buying these things and making/selling them in this day and age is just ripping people off however you look at it.

Hi Dave, I think Jo is posting the issue up this evening, I've never seen the wood & flames design before are there any others on the label with this design? Cheers Paul

Received my Judy Clay this morning (well Royal Mail morning anyway ) and was surprised to see the label, I had expected it to match the design of the Chuck Wright - Palm of my hand that I have. Phoned Jo W in that London and conferred with the knowledgeable Alan Handscombe who confirmed that there were two versions of the label. Any more information gratefully received and examples of other singles known in both designs. Jo has promised to post hers up but in the meantime here's mine:

I hate it when people say that Still, 1200+ does seem a lot. Out of interest, what was an expensive record when Martha Starr was 2 quid and what was the price? (Maybe a new thread?)

Already done that with no reply

pm'd you

More added 5/12, also some more reductions and sold items removed.

A Jo Wallace tip: Carla Thomas from the Memphis Queen LP - I Play For Keeps https://www.soulclub.org/stream/Carls_Thoma...y_For_Keeps.ram Cheers Paul

Isn't there one of hers on Motown that is quite rare - withdrawn or summat? Not sure if it is this one though

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https://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-WALT-DISNEY-MI...1QQcmdZViewItem (Item 170173961124)

https://cgi.ebay.com/iPod-Case-retro-vinyl-...1QQcmdZViewItem (Item 280176910661 if the link doesn't work)

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" Goldsoul 'investing in Northern Soul's future' " That needs explaining too .......... how exactly?

pm'd you Dave.

The same seller is selling quite a lot of 2nd issues/boots etc without saying what they are, there is even a boot of Rose Battiste that they describe as "ORIG" in the title. I know it is buyer beware but if the seller knows what they are they should say so. Still, if someone's happy to sling 50 quid away on a record without checking it's up to them I suppose.

I'll have that Ta pm'd you

Ian, Your question raises the thorny issue of whether the Northern Soul scene (or whatever people want to call it) is about the records or the music. Of course it makes sense to play the music from the most convenient source but then owning the records becomes a secondary, possibly marginalised, activity. Some people would argue that this would be a good thing because it would stop the ridiculous prices being paid for records because of the lore that only originals can be played at an event. The thing is though that the lore is still in place and probably the only acceptable way to play from a laptop or similar in today's scene would be to carry a box of records and (as someone else said) hold up the original during each tune. Incidentally a similar thing does go on already with people carrying originals and playing bootlegs to protect the original's quality and thus value. I actually support your suggestion because I think it would bring more diversity to a scene that is becoming polarised around ridiculously expensive records. The playing of lesser priced records is becoming frowned upon because everyone can have them, cheaper records no longer sell because the record buyers are now concentrating on the higher priced items so they can DJ. I doubt the scene as a whole would accept that playing the music rather than the original record is more important because it has grown up around the premise of owning the records being played. The fact that formats have moved on is ignored. As time has gone by owning the rarest and most expensive records is seen to give people kudos, social standing almost. My missus still takes the piss out of me after hearing someone in the 100 club queue in the late 90's say in hushed almost reverential tones "He's got The Cashmeres" whilst pointing to someone further up in the queue. Sounds like an irritable rash if you don't understand. I've made a similar point before about buying bootlegs, I don't see the point these days as you can get almost any sound you want on CD or mp3 so why buy a bootleg? The answer is so that you can play the vinyl without paying the money for the original, you can have a record collection (of sorts). This made sense when the format of the day was vinyl, it isn't any more but people still buy bootlegs. I still buy records for my modest collection, mostly cheap but possibly once a month something a bit more pricey. I buy and sell records I don't like or already have to fund this hobby but I'm finding this more and more difficult to do as the cheaper stuff is difficult to sell as I've aleady said. This will stop me buying expensive records because I feel my hobby should be self-funding. Hopefully I'm not the only one because this situation should cause record prices to come down in the future, already some sell-offs are apparent on UK eBay (and on this forum) so I can sit tight and wait untill the rush starts and then carry on my collecting for less outlay. So, in short, I hope your suggestion is taken up across the land then people will not need the records to DJ, the scene will prosper as younger people will discover the music, record collecting will be for anoraks not look-at-me DJ's and conversely DJing will be done by DJ's. Errrr ..... England will win the World cup, America will become a pacifist nation, We will have politicians we respect etc etc Cheers Paul

Probably doesn't realise the full value of what he/she had, or maybe it was someone's missus finally sorting out a long term issue

I may yet be able to sell this for big bucks ........

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This man should run courses, it's not as difficult to make sales as everyone makes out. Received today from Mr Domar: If anybody needs any CD's off me better make it quick as i'm close to unloading the whole lot very soon. Also some info about mailing orders as follows My last posting before xmas is Monday 3rd december. I can advise availability of your request if you are prepared to wait for my next mail out after xmas when things get back to normal which will be on Monday 7th January. Theres probably 5 times as much mail being sent out at this time and while I do not want to lose business I would prefer that to you getting your records broken in the xmas post frenzy. I've had this policy since I began mail-order and only 1 person insisted I send him his records against my advice. Do I need to tell you the 2 records arrived broken in half. And if any comic collectors get this theres not a lot left on site now Cheers and all the best Richard Quality

Here's a white promo that I bought from someone in the states about 6 years ago: Turns out it was a CK promo, dunno how it got to the states but it cost me 26 dollars and I sold it for around 50 dollars about 2 years ago. Would love the piccy sleeve as that is a genuine motown press done for a PR thing. Evidently most were left after the show and shrewd dealers wandered round picking them up off the floor. Not more than 500 pressed so the rumour goes. Tune

The last Continental Showstoppers through UK Ebay went for 175 Edit: I think I've got my records mixed up here, perhaps that was Skip Jackson Anyway, here's the popsike results: https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php...al+showstoppers Last one through was 261 dollars

A few LP's: Mecca Magic - Kent (KEND 090) Vinyl M-/Cover M- 15 Excellent compliation of 70's tunes from The Mecca Four Tops - On Top - US Motown 647 M-/VG+ 10 Great early 4 Tops (keeping my UK copy) The O'Jays - The Greatest Hits - United Artists 5655 M-/VG+ corner cut out 20 All their Northern tunes inc "I'll Never Forget You" Les McCann - Plays The Hits - Limelight LS 86041 M-/VG+ corner hole 15 Includes the LP only Sad Little Girl Mandrill - New Worlds - Arista 4195 M-/VG+ corner cut out 10 Includes "Too Late" Marvelettes - Sophisticated Soul - US Motown 286 M-/VG+ corner cut out 15 All their better early stuff along with the LP only "Your Love Can Save Me" - again, I'm keeping my UK copy Paypal or UK cheque is fine. Postage: UK 1st Class: £2.50 UK Recorded: £3.20 International: About a fiver but I'll check depending on destination. I'll add some more as I continue through my boxes. Thanks Paul