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Some people do only want expensive records, regardless of what they are. I used to go into a record shop in London quite regularly and one week he had hardly any singles when the previous week he'd had loads. So I asked him what had gone on. He said a guy came in and bought everything that was priced over £25, didn't look at anything else. So the record store guy says "I only have part of my stock in the shop, I can bring the stuff in from the store tomorrow if you want to look through that?" "great!" says the buyer. The record store guy then spends most of the night repricing half his cheap stock in the shop to above £25 and the buyer comes in next day and buys it all off him. The day I was in I bought "no one there" for a fiver - it said "Nice Motown £5" on the sleeve which must have put the buyer off.

Am I the victim of some "in" joke here? Never mind who won, was a moped really one of the prizes? That's fantastic if it's true - it would make a fantastic subject for a documentary

I actually have some confidence that the film will be really good, much better than previous offerings, I'm looking forward to it. The problem is that the habitually uninformed mainstream media will treat it as a joke, ridiculing it as that short piece did. The last comment on it was "just time to dig out your flares then ....." Up to that point everything was positive and you could see the enthusiasm that Elaine has for the project, the desire to be as authentic as possible, then with one line some dull apprentice journalist's poor attempt at humour turns it into a joke.

I was going to be a pedant and point out a few that just cannot be got for 50 (Shep?) but you've saved me the bother Great thread and top marks to Dave Flynn for sneaking in a sales list But Fenton Robinson at £20 !!! I paid double that about 4 months ago Watch the price of these records soar!

I don't think this is "sudden" - it's something that has been happening for years. Ebay UK is so full of boots, re-issues etc that it isn't worth looking at anymore and hasn't been for ages. The price of original records has risen so much, particularly for "trophy" records, leading to the situation where nobody would start collecting them as the cost is prohibitive to most. When I started I thought a fiver was expensive but soon found I would spend a ton on a really good record. Now, a ton wouldn't get you a really good record - it probably wouldn't get you a copy of Someday on Stardust FFS! Music has become so easily attainable that few people can get their heads round why some people will pay thousands for something that is available for 9.99 - and in a similar format. When the majority have that attitude it makes a market for bootleggers. I have to say though, that I like the practice of releasing never before released tunes on vinyl, I've even bought a couple. It is the reissuing of well known tunes that I can't see the point of.

Yep. Stopped going out to Soul do's - found I wasn't really enjoying them anymore. I like the music but there is other stuff I do. Sold a lump of my collection, then stopped selling and bought some. Leaning towards selling again but it takes a long time and i'd probably stop and start buying again. Drop in here now and again, avoid the mag and any OVO/boot thread, look at Sales and laugh. Leave it a couple of weeks then look in again. See you in a fortnight.

I know I'm moaning but please take the embedded sound off. IMHO there is nothing worse on a web site than music starting up when you don't know it is going to. I just click away without bothering to look anymore. Sorry for the moan.

If I remember the 70's correctly (and I might not) fashions changed pretty quickly. One reason for this was that the mainstream clothing companies would latch on to it and it became mainstream and so was dropped by anyone with fashion sense. I worked in a couple of clothes shops and you couldn't get what you wanted to wear in the shops until you didn't want to wear it. Most people I knew had their clothes made, staff from shops would trade their staff discount with each other to make things more affordable. I wasn't "on the scene" in the 70's but York being a small place I knew people who were and many of the fashions were seen first from that group. They were traveling regularly and picking up styles from elsewhere. I first saw wider parallel trousers in that group, they came from wearing wider trousers to dance in, a la Fred astaire, same with wearing trousers higher off the shoes. My first few pairs of parallels that were wider than sta prest were all made for me. Leather coats came from the Northern Soul scene too, but the best ones were made bespoke in Birmingham and I couldn't afford one. Bags (Oxford bags?) came to the shops after flares but for the same reasons - to go with platform shoes. You had to buy your trousers a couple of inches longer as the idea was to get your bags wide enough so they just covered the tops of your shoes - front to back. This might not have been the same for everyone but platforms came and went but bags didn't, so the long ones got turned up to wear with brogues and loafers. Again soulies and others had been wearing brogues and loafers for ages, I wore them to school. Bags with leg pockets were really hard to get hold of, particularly those cord ones. There was a stall on the market that occasionally got stuf but never had many pairs. I remember someone coming into the shop and saying the magic words "Karmen Ghia leg pockets are in the market" - no staff left in the shop except the manager! Bags then started getting sold mainstream and also started getting wider and wider. Nobody wanted them any more as everyone could have them. I don't remember vests ever being a fashion item but I packed all this in when I joined the army in 76. The reason I'm rambling on is because vests and baggies seem to have become a uniform for some people, when actually there never was a uniform - things changed all the time and those with enough money stayed ahead. Groups of people who did the same sort of thing and shared a social life tended to dress in the same way but not identically, as I remember there was always a desire to have something different. Patches are a good case in point, these were originally only available from venues but by the late 70's generic northern soul black fist sew on badges could be bought in newsagents. I'm sure you can buy vests now with patches already on. The fad for bowling shirts in about 74/75 came from a desire to have shirts that nobody else had, the desire to have an exclusive item of clothing was met by importing shirts that were one offs. These got dropped when mainstream shops stated manufacturing bowling shirts for the UK market and everyone could have one. I think the test of whether people are dressing up or not is would they wear the same clothes when not at an NS event (niter or otherwise)? Is it their "look" or do they just think that is what they should look like? I like retro clothes, I still have some but I don't wear them any more, but stuff being manufactured in 2012 that is meant to look retro is just naff. It is like new re-issues - anyone can have them - what is the point? Mass produced fashion misses the point. I agree with whoever said that people can wear what they want but I'm entitled to have an opinion on it and if asked (or not) will express it. I personally think that wearing 36+" bags and a vest with patches and whatever else that have probably been knocked up last week in china is just dressing up. It makes the scene look like teddy boys did in the late 70's when you could buy new drapes and beetle crushers off the shelf. I imagine a number of old rockers shook their heads, rolled their eyes and wondered where they had put the trusty cut-throat at the thought of people wearing a mass produced version of what they had worn as a made to measure fashion in the 50's. I am typing this wearing a Berghaus fleece, walking trousers that zip off above and below the knees, a T-shirt celebrating the British Moth Dinghy Class's 80th anniversary in 2012 and a pair of Merrells. Rush out and get something similar now for it is the new new thing (hopefully). Cheers Paul

More recently (a few years ago) I was rummaging round somebody's sale site in Europe and heard [this] , I thought "that's bloody good" so I bought it for 60 euros. Not blind really but I think I had my ears on.

Yes they can, but you can claim for the value as the item has not been delivered, but you have to prove value. Can of worms really.

Quite often Royal Mail will just deliver recorded delivery items without bothering to get a signature, I've had a couple like that. The posties are under pressure to finish their rounds in a certain time so don't want to hang about for a householder to answer the door or fill in the card and have to return the parcel. If that happens the item will still show as being processed because recorded delivery items are not tracked, just the posting and delivery is recorded. Maybe that is the prob?

So anyway, has a box full turned up?

I'm sure someone listed a much better copy in Sales the other day for about £30 quid (haven't checked). Why bother bidding £15 quid for a knackered one then paying a fiver or so for postage? Maybe they just like bidding. People are mad! If it was rare I could understand people bidding on it, but this sort of thing used to be in big bins in record shops in the US and sold for 10c each. People who bought record store stock in the US must be chuffed to bits with eBay.

The seller is a well known Belgian seller and DJ, he is always upfront about what is a boot and what isn't. I've bought originals from him a few times and he is very good to deal with. I always assume that anything that has been played on the popcorn scene has been bootlegged some time ago by the Belgians and quite often they haven't been documented over here in the UK. The Jo Ann Henderson bootleg is very difficult to tell from a real one evidently and people didn't know it had been booted until quite recently as I understand things. I can never get my head round people knowingly paying loads for boots these days.

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Hopefully there are .......... and us old idiots will never know it. Hopefully it will be underground and cool and not involve 40-odd years of baggage and grumpiness. The current scene will probably find out about it by mistake and turn up and look like tw*ts

Got a minty one of these for $29 the other week Still think "Sweet Baby" is a tune though, would love a copy on Sepia.

I think the "less than minters" are actually the same record, it sold on ebay then was offered in sales on here. Certainly looked like the same record. I hope loads have been found then I might get a copy within my record buying budget!

Got an almost mint copy of this, has one small mark that doesn't affect play so I'm grading it Ex++ Jade - The Siesta Is Over - Century City - Ex++ SOLD pm me or ptp [at} just7.co.uk Paypal is fine. UK postage (special delivery) is £6 Johnny foreigner - I'll find out but I'll only send it tracked and insure which is normally £8 or £9 Cheers Paul Sound (not from my copy):

Apparently I do. I'll try harder next time. Terribly sorry.

Katrina Stains is a localised phenomenon caused by the sudden realisation that there is a wall of water bearing down on you and George Bush et al will not turn up for two weeks .............

Only once and I wish I knew how. The package had stickers with "there is a customs charge on this package" (or summat) in big red writing, but the postie brought it to my door and just got me to sign for it. Result! I'm waiting for one at the moment, from one of those sellers that think England is on a different planet. I have this awful feeling that it was badly described and is going to be trashed when I get it and I'll have paid tax and customs for the privilege.

I actually think the normal post from the US (and in the UK) is the safest way to get records as they are not flagged up as expensive so don't get nicked. A bit like the diamond merchants who just use the ordinary post in the UK, packages that are not flagged up as high value never seem to go missing. I always send things to Europe using international signed for with appropriate insurance as there have been too many tales of people claiming that their records haven't arrived.

Ebay normally pops up a message saying that I can't bid as the seller does not post to my location when I try and bid on US postage only records. There are ways round it though, but it is annoying.

I bought this on Kent last week, fantastic tune! I was assuming that the Kent 45 is the only way to get it on 45 and as the LP is a recent issue there isn't any "play it off the original issue" issue - if that makes sense. I hope that there is no acetate or this will become another great tune that nobody ever hears out. Not that I go out or play out anymore.