Simsy

Off Topic Quicky, sorry Love the avatar Dan!

Each to his own Chalk, each to his own. With you on the no comparison thing, albeit in a round about way.

Matt, Surprised me in all honesty that you would describe Otis Redding's vocal talents as 'very ordinary'. Such a rich soul singing voice. His voice blew the Stax people away. He put James Carr in the shade and eclipsed Sam & Dave 's live performances. Booker T played piano on the These arms of mine demo and admitted he was paying more mind to listening to Otis' voice than playing the piano. This is not the legacy of an artist that's very ordinary. You can never be on too much of a Jackie trip mate! He was fantastic. I keep wrestling with preference between him, Otis and Sam Cooke. JW has the amazing wailing emotion. Otis, the rich all soulful vocal. And Sam Cooke seems to have a blend of the two. So sometimes I think he's #1. However I keep coming back to Jackie and with the amount of quality discs that made it big on the Northern scene (fave overall music) he remains closest to the heart. SWONS sounds p1ss poor - front room? Toothless? Crass psychedelic visuals! As for Stax playing the more prominent role in selling soul to white folks. Maybe a grittier, soulful style counts for something. But then do you reclassify the Supremes as pure pop and not soul? Tough one, but under the Motown banner they just nick it as soul imo. Supremes were the number one selling soul group in the US. Marvin Gaye was number two and the Temptations were number three. So I think prominence accolade really has to go to Motown generally speaking. All good stuff mate. Looking forward to your set at next 100 Club. Simsy. PS, I note your JW edit 'And whose husky range is shatteringly poor next to the emotive complexities of the Brunswick hero.' There aren't big enough words to describe Jackie's fantasticness (there's a word)! Otis may have a limited range by comparison. However that huskiness you speak of and his delivery was a unique and awesome contributory factor to Otis' greatness.

I don't think the buyer would have paid $455 for it if it was. https://popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=4028292685

This is the biggie. Around £250 I'd say.

Watched England beat USA on Sky Sports. Just watched Soul Deep on tape. I think the point you make about the 'UK audience' these days being mostly NS fans could well be true. In that it would be unlikely there would be Brit soul fans that just listened to Motown/Atlantic/Stax etc and hadn't heard of Northern/Rare soul, or didn't want to hear it. I think the programme's foundation is that it is a retrospective of American sixties soul. Whilst it would be good to see a full and thorough account of the Northern Soul scene from the late sixties to present day, the Soul Deep programme is something quite different. I thought Consdad's (does he have an offspring in jail? Or shouldn't we ask) comment about northern doc's always focussing in on the guy with the tatt's & beer towel was hilarious and true Fact is the artist's we have been watching on this programme are of course the successful one's who made it. Perhaps the likes of Jackie W, Sam Cooke, Otis & Motown artists are more worthy of having documentaries made about them because of their massive record sales, fame and popularity. I don't say that our obscure discoveries and underground scene does not warrant a story to be told. In truth though, for the best part, Northern Soul is about obscurity. Didn't everybody's friend Ian Levine do a documentary esq thing 'Strange World of Northern Soul'. I've not seen it. Would be interested to know what extent of folk on ere own a copy? All good stuff though. Asking myself the question after tonight's show whether the Southern American Soul v Northern American soul - which if either had the edge . There's a thread right there! Polished Motown Cool of the Temps, Marvin & Smokey, or Raucous from the heart Southern STAX of Otis, Sam & Dave. Mmmm

Superb

Great taste!

Wasn't sure if others had suggestions for a half hr 6'ts spot? Throw it open - you don't necessarily have to have the records, but name a perfect ten ...

Think they only mentioned JW in passing. I'm like you in that I love both those guys to bits, prob top 2 faves. Couldn't agree with anyone having a miles better voice than Sam, not for quality - though Jackie is as good imo. Real tough call that one.

That sounds good. BTW, sure do miss KTF downloads Mr Ponyegg

Yes, great double sider. Used to prefer years... Now about even I'd say. Always loved the Robert Parker, feel good toon, great lyrics.

Yeah, take your point about the mood of the moment etc. Just a general can't lose selection was sort of thread purpose.

I prefer sixties northern to anything in truth. Looking through my collection and I got to wondering what was a fail safe half hour sixties spot that would be a fair balance to keep the dancers on the floor. I've got a reasonable collection, but don't have everything, not by a damn sight. A half hour spot, let's say ten singles. (Stipulate original labels from your own collection). It may not be the ultimate but here goes - are they 'fail-safe' or not? Showmen - take it baby (SWAN) Rivingtons - I love you always (Vee-Jay) Spyder Turner - I can't make it anymore (MGM) Betty Everett - Getting mighty crowded (FONTANA) The Trends - Not too old to cry (ABC) Jackie Wilson - Just be sincere (BRUNSWICK) Lou Johnson - Unsatisfied (BIGTOP) Jimmy Robins - I can't please you (JERHART) Robert Parker - I caught you in a lie (NOLA) The Dells - Make sure (CADET) Too many oldies? Not enough biggies? I do have more newies and biggies. But I think for a half hour spot, with that set - I'd feel reasonably safe that the dance floor would remain adequately full - as they are all good solid dancers. Would there be folk that would disagree? Or maybe you have a superior collection and could deliver the ultimate 60's 1/2hr spot? Ten guaranteed sixties dancers Remember feel good dancers = a packed floor ...

I went to bed 20 mins ago. I'm not really here - lol. Moment of spelling insanity, I blame dave j

I do, I did. Too clever for my own britches. Spelt correctly and then don't pay attention with the spellchecker ps, should probably be breeches. I should turn in I think. lol

How long have we got left? Not long, a rogue soul fan is gonna kill us all in our beds! AAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I like the use of the word rotund just one more time, rotund Okay, slipping back on topic can anyone be arsed to go back and find the "How long will NS scene last" thread from the last time it was done. A short time ago it seems ...

Relly!

This is one for Mike I think. As there seems to be a discrepancy between the number of registered members and Moonunit's 2989. Too much to be a validation thing I would have thought

Hope you have access to a pc tomorrow Simon. Unfinished business etc. We gotta know who this mumma is.

In fairness Johnny One Trout had already mentiond the San Franciscan TKO's.

Very observant of you mate. You sure about those figures, says total members 2,578 at the bottom of the page and who's Andre?

Otis Redding - These arms of mine Sam Cooke - Twistin' the night away Smokey Robinson & The Miracles - Going to a go-go Brenton Wood - Gimme little sign Archie Bell & The Drells - Tighten up Fontella Bass - Rescue me Aretha Franklin - Respect Four Tops - Baby I need your loving

In fairness to SteveCee, he had already mentioned the Ben E King number.