Roburt

Many UK T/Mot 45's were pressed up over an extended period by EMI from 66 to around 1970 ... Motown fans discovering old UK released 45's and requesting copies from their local record shop + extended club plays for many releases meant the demand for numerous T/Mot went on for an extended period. I would guess this single falls into that category ... ... I BELIEVE .. that if any UK copies of TMG560 exist without the 'SOLD IN THE UK SUBJECT TO ..' notation, then they will be later pressed items ... .... anyone know the date when EMI dropped this text from their 45 releases ??

The sleeve of the US LP that the above mentioned 45 EP was lifted from .. ... of course, later on ... the BBC Record Dept. also got in on the act when they used the title for one their albums ...

Many on here seem to have used this thread to take unnecessary pops at DG .... I'm loath to give them further ammunition to vent their misguided opinions ... BUT ... found this on-line ... the incident I highlight dates from March 67 ... when did Dave start using KEEP THE FAITH ??? ........

If you're also interested in info on Bull & El Capalaras ... you need to get the upcoming issue of SOUL UP NORTH.

Ady, is this late 68 proposal (detailed in Record World), the label that eventually (some months later) emerged as Deep Soul Records ??? ....

DG always had great taste in music. Around summer 1985, I skipped off work over a lunchtime & went to listen to him talk about soul music at a Sheffield museum. Chatted with him afterwards & gave him a tape of some new tracks Lou Ragland had just sent me on a 12" test press. About a week later, I got a letter from Dave saying how much he loved one of the tracks (MAKING LOVE) .... time moved on & even though it was still a very rare track , it became a top anthem on the London 2-Step scene (1990) ...

A selection of front page extracts ... from 65, 66 & 67 ....

The front page always featured some good stuff .... the inside pages even more .... From 68 & 69 ... I can't remember seeing the ad in any other record mag .... that 45 by the Miami based group also escaped in the UK of course ...

I've been using it for about a year now ... they have lots of ads that didn't appear in Cashbox & Billboard ... plus very different new release reviews & more ... it's good just a select a particular issue & scan thru it ... you find allsorts of great soul related stuff ...

Inially, you chased UK released stuff ... when those copies dried up, you bought import copies of stuff that you knew from UK release ... then postal dealers started selling (by auction) loads of US imports that hadn't gained UK release. I'd scan the lists for artists I knew, or labels I knew and buy blind, bidding low values for each ... I seem to recall the bids started as low as 2/6 (12p) ... I'd win some of em, not others ... some I won would be great (I liked all soul, fast, slow, funk, southern, Detroit, New York, LA), so it was easy for me as I had wide tastes. Others would be dross but overall, it was worth bidding in that style (I got Slow Fizz -- the Sapphires early on but never liked it much coz of the stupid lyrics, so I sold it on). Not long after this, outlets such as Soul City and F L Moores were selling imports by the box load, I also started to get lists from a NY area vinyl warehouse where stuff on little labels started at 10c, Motown / Stax at 25c ... again I'd buy lots of stuff blind. Then around 1970, Contempo started selling loads of imports, many being US copies of in-demand club tracks ... so it was possible to get hold of 'rare stuff' (by mid 70's standards) but it was very much a hit & miss affair with you picking up a Tobi Legend, Valentinos, Spooners Crowd, Reuben Wright, Steve Mancha by chance more than design.

AND MORE FROM 74 ....

There was loads of good jazz funk around in 74 too ....

Gladys Knight & the Pips won the 1974 Top Pop 45 Act Award .... not much change from 73 ....

AND OF COURSE .... there were all the many great soul singles (& album tracks) that didn't make the top 50 pop or soul charts ..... many deserved to but just didn't get the promotion they deserved ....

We usually think that the 60's produced a lot of the best soul music ... BUT COMMERCIALLY ... 1974 was very good for soul acts ... They were touring the world on the back of international hits, they'd broken Vegas, they were being signed by the majors & were getting decent promotion ... so the hits just kept coming ...

Why wouldn't he think we wanted his 70's hits ... after all in 74 he was No.1 with Billboard mag ....

Andre, if you could tell us more about Vic's music career (or hook us up with him direct via an e-mail contact address), then I could forward some relevant questions and using the info write an article on him to go up on here & in a UK soul magazine. CHEERS.

Another instro I recall being played around 67 (but my memory is shot these days so ...) ... . .. Bobby Moore & Rhy Aces -- Hey Mr DJ (B side to SEARCHIN FOR MY BABY). Anyone confirm if my recall is correct ??

Much of the background info in the section of the above book on Jnr Walker's night at the Wheel seems to have been a straight 'lift' from my chapter in 'THE IN CROWD' book about my first visit to the Wheel (only went then coz the Mojo was about to / did close). The 'author' even had the cheek to use a scan of my Wheel ticket from that night (also used, but with my permission, in THE IN CROWD).

TWO IN THE MORNING by SPOONER'S CROWD always does it for me. BUT REALLY any of their 60's / 70's southern soul or country soul outings as just about everyone of them is good to great.

The song was included on a UK Epic 12" single ... I think it was one of six songs mixed into one continuous cut on the B side of "I Gave It Up". No idea how long a segment of this track was included in the mega mix though. No doubt, Sam had it cut onto a carver for his use (from this or the full LP track.

It would be a total waste if he doesn't perform his many 70's solo anthems ... they're classics in the same way that his 60's Motown songs were ... BUT you get to hear the REAL ARTIST perform the 70's stuff so much more authentic ... MIND YOU ... as I'll be at Cleggy anyway, the opportunities to see him will be much diminished.

Lou Ragland will be around as he's performing on the live show ..... ....... I'll see if he thinks it would be worthwhile for him to fetch a few rekkids along to sell to visiting UK soulies ... WOULD HE GET A TABLE GRATIS if he did turn up ... He's a bit disappointed that he's only been contracted to sing 2 songs on the live show .... (not too hard to guess which two).

He played all the top variety clubs up north in the 70's. He was a regular at places like the Fiesta (Sheffield), Batley Variety Club, Wakefield Theatre Club .. .... BUT his show was totally M-O-R, very little to no soul content.

There was a Freddie Scott working in the Miami area from the mid 60's to early 70's (live work + recordings). Which the Miami / Philly links, it could well have been him. I guess the Terry Collins on Kwanza was just a Philly prod that the new label bought in to boost it's release rate.