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Holy Spirit - Spiritual Soul and Gospel Funk From Shreveport's Jewel Label
Roburt commented on Ian Dewhirst's article in News Archives
Still not managed to get CD1 out of the player. ......... Hopefully I'll get to hear CD2 sometime soon I'm away for 4 days from Saturday, will have to put CD2 in the car .... sorted !!!). -
In the 1960's, lots of Bahamians moved across to Florida ... so it was only natural that some of the Island's entertainers would follow them over to do some shows ........ one of them was Jay Mitchell who was in MIami in the late 60's & early 70's ........ .... (and he even got to record a few tracks down at Criteria studios) ........... NUMERO liked the stuff he laid down & so (later on) released a 12" & a VA CD with his stuff on.
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I don't know where they had been (probably out touring as the Fabulettes), but the Marvels (Mar-Vells) were back home at the Continental Club early in 1968 ............
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RE: i'm not TOTALLY against people on the radio playing off legitimate compilation CD's ............... FHEW, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, I can sleep nights now. I'm not bothered (& neither are 99% of radio listeners) what type of media tracks on the radio are played off ....... WTF does it matter !?!?!
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Here's a show by a somewhat 'unknown bio' type of artist ..... Mary Hylor. I know that she was born (I presume in Miami) around the end of the 1940's ..... .... she got into singing & cut the track "He Walked Down The Isle" which was released on MPRC (Music Production & Record Corp out of New York) in the mid 60's. She did loads of shows from the mid to late 60's at the top Miami 'black' clubs (such as the Hampton House). ..... by the late 60's, she seemed to be getting a bit more jazzy .... Later in life I think she got a degree, became a Doctor (not a medical one) and had a spell working on behalf of Liberia. She was still around (& singing) in Sept 2009 when she performed for the Historic Hampton House Community Trust, Inc. Can anyone fill in some of the gaps on her career / life ??
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Mine would have to come from his 1970's output for Spec-O-Life Productions ..... ... sumat by Lenny Williams (ABC), New Birth, Mighty Clouds of Joy, Lamont Dozier or Alton McLain & Destiny. JUST so many classy 1970's modern soul tracks .... too hard to pin it down to just one cut !!
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... AND OF COURSE ... the tracks on the UK Pop Charts back then bore little relationship to what was actually selling in large numbers in the small specialist (local) record shops that most soul fans bought their 45's in. ... PLUS .... as soul 45's were still largely 'underground', it could take weeks for a punter to find out what a song was called, who recorded it & what label it was on ...so soul 45's tended to sell over an extended period. Back when I was 'wet behind the ears', I spent days trying to buy a track that I thought was called "Sugar for my honey's lunch" till I found out it was by the 4 Tops. So even the national pop charts were 'way off the mark' when it came to the actual total number of each 45 sold back then.
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To amass 1500 60's soul tracks on CD, you would only need to buy around 75 comp CD's (@ 20 tracks per CD) ... .. with the cheap price of lots of NS comp CD's these days, that would cost you around £350 (much less if lots of those CD's were 2nd hand). So lets not jump to conclusions about tracks being ripped onto CD-R for radio play.
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......... However they got onto the 'pirates' playlists .. .... I (& numerous other) listeners to their wirelesses back in the mid 60's still got to hear good soul tracks over the airways. What the pirates played certainly influenced my 45 buying habits back then -- Roscoe in particular played loads of what was then (to me) obscure stuff. Those pirate stn plays certainly had an effect on what I got to hear played out in York's mod / soul clubs back in 65/66/67. I'm sure loads more pop rubbish was on the airwaives back then due to 'backhanders' than soul stuff.
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Stephen, one track that would be good for you to play on your show is the original incarnation of the song "Higher & Higher". Before Carl Smith 'borrowed' it & took it across Chicago to Brunswick for Jackie Wilson to turn into a hit .... ... it had been recorded at Chess by the Dells. As JW's version was instantly a hit, the Dells did very little with their 'original', apart from it going onto their next LP (I have it on that OVO LP). It is easily sourced on CD as it has been included on 3 or 4 different CD releases of the Dells Chess stuff ........ Here's one CD (a box set @ less than £10) it is available on (& as a bonus you can sound-check their version before buying) ... ... https://www.amazon.co...tt_mus_ep_dpi_2 ... or you can just buy that one track (as an mp3) for 69p.
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Denbo, the most relevant words in my statement above are .... cheap copies ... .... and I'm a Yorkshireman, so cheap really does mean cheap. Luckily for me, you can pick up Donnie's 1970's 45's for next to nothing in the right places .... and ... .. I can always look closely at a normal OBB 45 label / run out groove area & then check other copies to see if there is a variance. AND I may make clocks out of a few of the 45's I get that actually do have OBB on the A side (the Avco label should look quite good behind clock hands).
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This outfit seemed to have every angle covered (they even had their own radio show) .... .......... ....... (see post 97 for one of their 45's) .........
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As each year (hell, decade) passes, it gets harder to recall which soul 45's were UK chart, UK radio & / or UK club hits. Memories get muddy and 'myths' grow up about certain records that were 'massive in Manc' or 'charting on Caroline' ... so I thought I'd post up a few bits of info to 'put the record straight' ..... you might even say 'put the 45 straight' ....... ........ Here's an extract from the Radio London chart / playlist for 13th Nov 1966 .... No.3. Holy Cow -- Lee Dorsey (climbing from 6) No. 4 A Love Like Yours -- Ike & Tina Turner (still at 4) .... 6 ......... Ride On Baby -- Chris Farlowe (not soul really but a mod guy) No.15. I Could Feel The Whole World Turn Round -- Shotgun Express (from 19) No.19. Crazy Feeling -- Carl Douglas & the Big Stampede (from 34) No.20. Reach Out, I'll Be There -- Four Tops (dropping from 9) ... 22 ..... My Mind's Eye -- Small Faces (mod band) .... 25 .... La-La-La-Lies -- Who (mod band) No.26. What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted -- Jimmy Ruffin (up from 29) No.27. Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song) -- Otis Redding No.28. A Corner In The Sun -- Walter Jackson !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No.33. Stop, Look And Listen -- Chiffons No.40. I'm Ready For Love -- Martha & the Vandellas ........ DJ Climbers: Heaven Must Have Sent You -- Elgins .......... Tony Blackburn Another Night -- Dionne Warwick ............... Paul Kaye ....... Don't Help Me Out -- Cliff Bennett & the Rebel Rousers (R&B band) ........ Ed Stewart ................... Climbers: The Incredible Miss Brown -- Herbie Goins ..... Cuckoo Long -- John Baldry (R&B singer) ..... Pamela Pamela -- Wayne Fontana I Need Love -- Little Richard Stay -- Virginia Wolves ..... Willow Weep For Me -- Alan Price Set (Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need -- Miracles You Keep Me Hangin' On -- Supremes ........ .... AND .... one from Radio Caroline for 3rd Sept 66 ....... .......4 ... All Or Nothing -- Small Faces ..... 6 ... Big Time Operator -- Zoot Money & The Big Roll Band No.10. Warm & Tender Love -- Percy Sledge (up from 13) ... 11 Got To Get You Into My Life -- Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers No.12. Barefootin' -- Robert Parker (up from 14) No.14. Working In The Coalmine -- Lee Dorsey (up from 15) No.25. Keep Lookin' -- Solomon Burke (down from 21) ..... 27 Black Is Black -- Los Bravos No.30. You Can't Hurry Love -- Supremes ..... 34 Just A Dream -- Chris Farlowe ....... 35 Hi-Lili, Hi-Lo -- Alan Price Set No.38. Headline News -- Edwin Starr (from 37) No.43. Hi Hi Hazel Geno -- Washington & The Ram Jam Band (down from 34) ....... 48 I'm A Boy -- Who All the above (& much more) can be found on ... https://www.radiolondon.co.uk/
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Tony, can't hold your decision to 'hang onto' the info (about how to spot the rare version of the OBB 45) against you .... ... but I will (from now on) be picking up ALL cheap copies of the OBB 45 I come across .... just in case.
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Thanks for the clarification. As I stated there is a lot of mystery / mis-information surrounding Jerome Louise (JJ) Jackson; Leo Robinson / JJ Jackson and June (H J) Jackson. I'd say then that it must be true that JJ Jackson passed away years ago.
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EXTRA RELATED INFO ......... Jerome Louise (JJ) wrote 137 songs that are registered with BMI, lots of these being joint efforts with Sidney Barnes. He also wrote with Jerry Ragavoy & Windsor King. JJ also has 12 songs registered with ASCAP, some of these also being co-written with Sidney Barnes (some others were composed in conjunction with Lew Futterman & Jack McDuff). Pierre Richard Roman Tubbs (who along with JJ) wrote "But It's Alright" went on to work with other people on the UK soul scene. He has 36 songs registered with BMI. Among these is "People Are People" which he co-wrote with the guy who recorded by it; Al Matthews. Some mystery still surrounds JJ .... it's stated that he was born in New York but I believe this is wrong. He seems to have been born on November 8th, 1942, in Gilette, Arkansas. He has been mixed up at times with the West Coast based soul singer June Jackson (H J Jackson). He went on to be popular in Brazil where he performed under the name of 'Leo Robinson'. Sidney Barnes lost touch with him years ago and has stated that JJ went through some rough times in the 70's. It has long been thought that JJ died years ago, however it is written in places that has was recently known to be living in Jacksonville, Florida. .... ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE ?
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J J Jackson / Sidney Barnes related info from a piece I did on Sidney .... .... Sidney befriended George Kerr who had been in a recording group; the Serenaders. The group had fallen apart and so the pair decided to recruit some new members and re-establish the outfit. Timothy Wilson was persuaded to leave Tiny Tim & the Hits to join them and Howard Curry became their fourth member. Signed to Riverside, the group had a single released early in 1963, "Two Lovers Make One Fool", but it was their songwriting abilities that would get them noticed. In Spring 1963, Raynoma Gordy moved to New York and established a Jobete Music office in the Brill Building. When Sidney learnt of this, George and he went straight down there. Realising that the pair weren't just the creative force behind the Serenaders but that they were also the business brains in the group, she signed them both to deals with Jobete. The group was also part of the deal and so late in 1963, they found themselves in Motown's Detroit studio cutting songs under Berry Gordy's direction. Thus, in January 1964, the Serenaders launched the new Motown label; V.I.P. with their 45 "If Your Heart Says Yes / I'll Cry Tomorrow" (VIP # 25002). Berry & Raynoma's relationship was in trouble though and she had to make a success of the New York venture. She decided that Sidney and George would be much more useful undertaking day to day creative and administrative duties, so she steered them in that direction. Told to find and sign more talent, the pair were promised that they would earn more money doing this than performing. When it became known that a couple of New Jersey locals held important positions at Jobete's New York office, a steady stream of singers started to drop by. George Clinton, Norma Jenkins and J J Jackson were soon signed up with the likes of Doris Duke, Eddie Holman plus Porgy & the Monarchs also coming by. Raynoma hooked up with Eddie Singleton and they were now making the major decisions about the New York based enterprise, but Berry wasn't too happy with her new relationship. Sidney went about developing a strong writing partnership with George Clinton and things seemed set to take off when Berry cut off the supply of cash the New York office needed to survive. Raynoma tried to get around this problem by pressing up some copies of Mary Well's latest hit but Berry had her arrested for bootlegging and sent some guys in to close the office down (in July / August 1964). This predicament resulted in Sidney and George Clinton's writing partnership breaking up as Sidney decided to stay in New York, whilst George relocated to Detroit. Teaming up with J J Jackson, Sidney was soon back into his stride and the new pairing quickly started turning out great songs. The Soul Sisters recorded "Think About The Good Times" (Sue), the Sparkels "Try Love (One More Time)" (Old Town), Billy Prophet "What Can I Do" (Sue), the Gypsies "Jerk It" (Old Town), Sandra Phillips "You Succeeded" (Broadway) and Mary Wells cut both "My Minds Made Up" and "Me Without You" for 20th Century Records. Leiber and Stoller signed the pair (as songwriters) to their new Red Bird / Blue Cat Company. Here Sidney met Jeff Barry and Phil Spector and further developed his writing and production skills. He also had a couple of 45's released on Red Bird; "You'll Always Be In Style" and "I Hurt On The Other Side" both of which would go on to become top Northern Soul plays down the years. Sidney promoted "I Hurt On The Other Side" by doing a few live shows and this wetted his appetite for performing again. Soon, he found himself a member of the Fiestas (who recorded for Old Town) and out on the road doing one nighters on the chitlin circuit with Gladys Knight & the Pips, Little Richard and the Shirelles.
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Can you post up a label scan.
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Before he came to the UK, JJ wrote songs in conjunction with Sidney Barnes. A song the pair had been working on was "Come See Me". This was 'finished off' in the UK with the help of Pierrre Tubbs. JJ cut it himself and it was released on his 1st UK album .... but it was also cut by UK group the Pretty Things and their version made the Top 50 of the UK pop chart in 1966 after being released on 45. Some top UK musicians played on JJ's UK recordings andbecame members of his backing group, the Greatest Little Soul Band in the Land. One of these guys was Dick Morrissey (who would later go on to form Morrissey Mullen).
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The tracks on this 45 were recorded in the UK in 65 or 66 .. .... Jerome (JJ) had started out working in the US (New York), writing songs with other guys well known on the NS scene. Before long he was working with Lew Futterman (usually a producer for jazz artists) with the likes of singers Brother Jack McDuff & Jimmy Witherspoon. Jimmy Witherspoon visited the UK and in 1965 his LP 'Spoon in London' was released. I believe that tracks for this album were cut in London in 65 and that JJ came over here (along with Lew F) to work with Spoon. Whilst here he wrote "But It's Alright" with UK based Pierre Tubbs (well known down the years on the UK music scene & in groups that cut for Go & Strike labels here). Anyway JJ's recording of "But It's Alright" went to #22 on the UK pop charts during November of 1966 after the cut had become a massive UK club track. I think, when the deal to release this 45 was 1st done with Polydor, that "..Boogaloo" was selected as the A side. "But It's Alright" was soon picked by DJ's here as the side to play & so the 45 was issued again with the A & B sides reversed. Due to its UK success, it was licensed for release by Calla in the US. The song made such an impact that a number of cover versions of it were released, one of these by Eddie Floyd, In 1968, Jerome secured a US deal with Warner Bros / Loma and "But It's Alright" was issued again (in the US & UK) on Warners. So the answer to your q is ... the Polydor 45 with "But It's Alright" as the A side is the common version.
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Stephen, if you can 'stretch' the remit of your radio show to include slow soul -- & a bit of 'light & shade' (fast & slow) always adds to the listeners pleasure IMHO -- then go check out the 'SirShambling' web site .... https://www.sirshambling.com/sir_shambling/artistlist.php Loads of obscure lesser known deep soul tracks listed on there, most with sound files attached. The quality / intensity of some of the vocal performances showcased on there is astounding ... just start at A and work your way thru to Y, selecting the tracks that hit home for you.
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