Roburt

You must be wrong Tim, coz if Tony doesn't have one of em, they can't possibly exist. Just like my Ja. Soul Children Stax 45 with an old style logo (or any of the numerous 'photo copied US label' Ja 45 labels that I have already posted up on this thread). After all, he has thousands of Jamaican pressed soul and pop 45s and so other label types can't possibly exist, especially any that have 'photo copied US label' type designs placed on them. Mind you, my problem is that I develop wildly inaccurate theories that are all of my own invention. I just hope that you are not as 'delusional' as I obviously am.

Hey stop messin about chasing Brenton's version of songs ... there's much better around .... my biggest craving (in this line) is the later version of "Gimme Little Sign" by little known marsupial Peter Andre. It's a very hard 45 to track down copies of coz it only made No.3 in the Aussie charts back in 1992. If anyone has a copy they'd be willing to sell me, then please mail to me at ...... .... Roburk C/O Rampton Hospital, Woodbeck, Nr Retford, Nottinghamshire

Ohh God, I'll have to go looking for that dimn Ja. Soul Children 45 now & it could be in any one of 60 boxes !!! ........... the wife ain't gonna be happy.

NO MAN, I was there ... like, serious man, in Kingston with Scratch & King Tubby. Me and Gregory Isaacs down on North Parade buying weed for Kegsy, then back in the studio with Scratch making mystical music. ... BUT seriously, if you're saying I fabricated any of the above label pictures or made up any of the actual data connected with records I posted scans of, then you are just SO WRONG.

Some info on the Palms in Hallandale ......... https://blogs.miamine...sic_history.php MORE RELATED INFO ..... The achievements of Gainesville based singer Little Jake Mitchell were celebrated a couple of years ago when "Little Jake Mitchell Day" was proclaimed locally. Jake was also honored during 2010's Gator Growl and homecoming parade. He had performed with his group; Little Jake and the Blenders, at the Uni of Florida's 1960 Gator Growl and he played a major role in getting the event integrated. Mitchell has been charming audiences since he could climb on-stage. From age 5, Little Jake routinely won the Holsum Bread company's talent contests in Tampa (he had grown up in the projects there). In 1957, he traveled to Chicago to record the single "Darling, Darling Baby" for Chess, who were looking for another Little Willie John. B.B. King, whom Mitchell calls his "godfather," took him on the road, and he also recalls playing South Florida venues such as the Night Beat at the Sir John Hotel in Overtown and the PALMS of Hallandale. Mitchell relocated to Detroit in 1965, recorded some sizzling soul singles " including the infectious "Not a Chance in a Million" " started his own Golden Hit imprint and operated a couple of nightclubs. When business slowed in the '70s, he took a job as an executive chef at the University of Bridgeport, though he continued to perform.

The 'Million Dollar' Palms in Hallandale (a little seaside town just north of Miami) was a major stop on the Chitlin Circuit .... .... the likes of Same Cooke, James Brown, Solomon Burke, Jerry Butler & the Impressions all played the venue .... ... as did Jackie Wilson ..... one time being way back in August 1958 ........ (Post 59 featured another Palms appearance for Jackie; that one being in December 58).

I bet it was 'Hard Work' sitting through this January 1967 show ..... by all accounts, John had just been a big hit at the Monterey Jazz Festival (where his live act was recorded & released by Columbia on LP). I only became aware of his stuff in the 70's (his big hit was in 76) ... but he 1st recorded at the start of the 60's !!!

I saw Frankie Beverly & Maze at Nottingham's Rock City the 1st time (I think) they came over to the UK to play gigs .... It would have been in the 80's (mid?). They were flipping spiffing & to get 'right up close' at a club style venue was awesome.

When I first visited the Caribbean (back around 1987), there were loads of 'unplayed' (impossible to say MINT as these were Jamaican pressings) copies of 1960's soul albums in the record shops (stuff like local copies of 1960's Chuck Jackson Wand LP's & similar items). The shops had more than one copy of these LP's and I assumed that they were 're-released' versions of original LP's that had been licensed & pressed up on the 'Islands' back when they were new release albums. Knowing the way Jamaican's have always done things, I doubt they still held the license to press up these LP's in the mid to late 80's BUT that fact certainly hadn't stopped them doing so. Quite a few of the 60's Atlantic 45's that were also turning up in local shops seemed a bit dubious too as the labels on these 45's looked almost identical to other Atlantic 45's (in the same racks) by artists such as the Persuaders, Kleer & Levert.

A George Duke 45 on Epic .....

Two George Dukes now ... but from different US labels (but both Jamaican 45's appear to use copies of the US companies label as their start point).

Got a Jamaican Stax copy of the Soul Children's "The Sweeter He Is" here somewhere ... but its not in either of my Caribbean 45 boxes so can't take a photo of it to post here at present. Its just black text (& logo) on a white label though (if I'm remembering correctly) & is on the old Stax logo (the pile of 45's). The US version of this Soul Children single is however on the newer yellow label with the Stax 'finger snapping logo'.

Another Jamaican Polydor label 45 ...... again they used a copy of the US Polydor label .... ... but this time they did their best to hide the fact by 'losing' the info off the edge of the label. Just for info purposes as well, there's no black half record above the Polydor logo on this 45 (see the Jean Knight 45 I posted up earlier if you don't know what I mean here). It seems they printed up this version of the Polydor US label at too large a scale, so removed the black half record bit as most of it would have disappeared off the label edge when fixed to the 45 .... that also appears to be the reason the US Polydor data also goes right off the edge of the bottom of the label.

Don't know if it's allowed to 'expand' the theme of this thread to 45's licensed in from the US but pressed up in Barbados. Woun't post any Bajan 45 labels (may not be allowed here) but at least in Bridgetown that did know something about quality control. The labels just about always look great & the vinyl actually plays without sticking, jumping, skipping, clicking or excessive surface noise.

Russell, I have quite a few 'weird' V.A. EP's that mix up genres and get some of the track / artist info wrong .... So I'd guess your EP comes from somewhere in the far east like Thailand, Malaysia or Singapore. Mind you, none of the EP's I own (which are on labels named Stereo 4 Track Records, Express Songs, Royalsound & in one case on a label that just has a logo, no name) list any label addresses or country of origin.

OK, if this has just now become a thread about Jamaican 45's licensed in from the US ... here's a typical local effort ..... Start out with just a plain yellow label .... add a bit of text & a poor representation of the US label logo ... but make sure you print on the local distributors info .... .... and then fix the label way off centre ensuring the edge colour doesn't stay round & that most of the local distributor data is totally lost ...

Boss, we've got another problem. I've used all the blank MCA 45 labels up on the Bobby Womack single. ........ I've now pressed up some Rufus records !!! Ahh, just use anything you can lay your hands on, nobody will be any the wiser ........ after all, a rainbow on a blue background ain't a very memorable design ...

Hey, we've gotta put out George Dukes latest US 45 here ..... Well go press it up ..... we have some copies of US blank Epic labels. JUST BE SURE its impossible to tell any difference between the US logo copyright line and the adjacent ' Distributed in the Caribbean by Surrey Records Ltd' bit ... ... boss, rely on me, there woun't be the slightest difference .....

Hey, lets copy a US Warners 45 label & use that on the next Larry Graham local release ..... ... that's a good idea, where's the WB logo placed on the US 45 ??? Last time I looked it was at 10-o-clock, so be sure not to put any text there ...

Seemed to work for the Epic stuff lads ..... .. how about we try it agin with a Columbia 45 ..... and we'll emphasis the fact that it's a stereo track by printing the Columbia logo in stereo ... .... be sure to make one of the label edges straight agin though ... & I'm sure nobody will notice that we ran of of letters in the usual font before we finished the local label info .... .... after all its only 3 letters, a L, T and D.

Hey they fooled Epic / Columbia. Might just have copied a blank US 45 label, but at least they changed the colour to put everyone off the scent (& they didn't cover up the US trademark info) .... And leaving a straight edge to the left side of the label was an added precaution ...

Heck, they gone & done it agin ..... But the guys up at Elektra's offices in NY & LA will never find out .... ... nobody buying the 45 will even know what the song title was, so how could they report which 45 was involved ... Lets have a look at another local 45 licensed in from Atlantic .... this time they slightly moved the printing alignment for the local address .... hey presto, you can't really tell this time that its another copy of a US 45 label .... ... well not if you've had a few rums or spliffs first anyway ....

Whoops, guess that one was also pressed up on a Friday afternoon, when everyone had hit the rum & the quality control guy had fallen asleep. But it can't have happened for many other US labels ........ Bet they wouldn't have chanced it with an Elektra label release .....

Ohh, well maybe just that once they ran out of time & just copied a US Atlantic label. Bet it never happened for other US labels ...... No, I checked this one and all it shows is the 15 Bell Road address ...... no mention at all for Polydor's 810 7th Avenue, New York ....

So its plain to see on the Jamaican Ben E King 45 that there is no mention at all for 75 Rockefeller Plaza, New York .... you just get Dynamic Sounds 15 Bell Road address ....... hey, but am I right, can't really tell .........