Roburt

It's Frank Lipsius that now controls the Jamie / Phil-LA of Soul / Arctic catalogues & who I refer to in earlier threads. ........ Frank Lipsius: Attorney-at-Law & president of Jamie Record Co. I guess he is Harold's brother .... is that correct ?? Is Harold still around ? (Jimmy Bishop & Jesse James seem to have 'disappeared' off the scene). While we are on about the Philly soul scene ............. Who was Jimmie Rogers was organised Cliff Nobles MoonShot tracks ?

By golly, how right you must be sir. Just checked 2 Ja Tamla Motown 45's that came to hand, coz one doesn't credit any local licensee (the other credits Dynamic Sound). The 1st (uncredited) one has DSR-8065 scratched into the run-out groove, the 2nd has DSR-9985. Neither number bears any relationship at all to the release numbers on the actual 45 labels, so they must be Dynamic Sound Recs numbers. Can't tell which pressing plant they came from (unless a DSR number means Dynamic manufactured them in-house).

It was manufactured by Federal Records, the same Ja outfit that did other local releases of US soul 45's. The Tamla Motown 45 I put up in Post 82 also looks 'too slick' to be a Ja Dynamic Sound made item .... guess Federal & Dynamic knew they had to 'do it right' for some US labels or they might have lost their licensing deals. Dynamic Sound usually released the Columbia / Epic stuff in Ja & didn't seem too bothered about quality control with most of those 45's. Though I have some mid to late 70's Columbia & Epic 45's that state 'Manufactured in Jamaica by CBS (JA) Ltd', so the parent company must have established a local branch for at least a couple of years. Any idea what local reggae labels Federal released stuff on, it's not a local record company that I recall much about (apart from seeing their details on some locally made soul 45 labels -- they were still the local RCA licensee in 1980 -- see Post 84).

The radio DJ's in Miami had their fave artists (many times it would be the singers who would do the DJ's sock jams for free) & so would play their records a lot on their shows. Roy Hamilton was a regular visitor to Miami to play live shows (& do DJ sock hops I guess), so no doubt his 45s got lots of plays over the MIami airwaves (& thus were heard by listeners in Ja). So it seems only natural that his 45's would be licensed for local release there. US soul acts would also travel to do live shows on the Islands (Ja, Barbados, etc). Friends of mine tell me tales of seeing Joe Tex perform in Bridgetown, but say he was blown off the stage by Jackie Opel who was his opening act that night. .... but it wasn't all one-way traffic ........ the Ska Kings hit Miami in 1965 ..........

Well the NARA convention was certainly held in Miami in 1959 & I believe it returned to the city before the end of the 60's ... SEE Pages 219/ 220/ 221 of the book Voice Over: The Making of Black Radio. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=gJuIHrKBONMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Voice+Over:+The+Making+of+Black+Radio&source=bl&ots=3TXkyLyG5d&sig=NKgAVYawLWIiEshVsI8Mpwk6dEw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2kAVUOGDLefT0QWSk4GIAQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Voice

Perhaps this is part of the reason why the Soul Children's "The Sweeter He Is" was so popular in Ja ............. ... I'm told that loads of people on the Island listened in to Miami radio stns on a regular basis .......... As the track was No.1 on the radio in Miami, it must have gotten constant plays at that time.

I suppose it could just as easily have been Milton 'Butterball' Smith, a radio DJ at WMBM in Miami back in the 60's. ... ALSO ... weren't some of the big NARA conventions held in Miami in the 60's .... loads of contacts must have been made at those. N.B. The above 'Butterball' not to be confused with the Philly radio DJ 'Butterball' (Joe 'Butterball' Tamburro) who just died.

Pete, although ska was played a lot at nighters when I 1st started attending such dances, I unloaded most of my ska / reggae 45's in the early 70's (when the mortgage payments got too big). Have maintained a 'passing interest' only ever since (though have bought numerous ska / reggae CD's over the last 20 years). So I know little about how the Ja music scene developed apart from the soul side of things there. Mind you, my big mate Nigel Flood is one of the UK's top reggae DJ's and has been out 'on tour' with some top UK acts (playing his 45's in the intermissions). We always have a long ska session in Charlie Rees' caravan at Cleggy each weekender (which I enjoy enormously). Don't think I'd ever try to get back into ska collecting though; way too expensive now + too many 'totally trashed' platters out there.

Steve, after he became 'big' in Philly & New York, his show was 'syndicated' to another 3/4 cities. One of those was Miami (though he only actually visited the radio stn there a few times) and it's said that his 'rapping' style influenced listeners in the northern Caribbean (who could easily hear the signal emanating from the Miami radio stn).

The parallels between the 'Ja sound system' scene & the UK NS scene are very close at times. The Sound System DJ's / toasters would hook up with one producer (record label or dealer here) & would want exclusives from that studio / label. So, some very limited press 45's would be handed out (with blank labels or labels with hand stamps on them) & these would be kept as 'exclusives' by a particular sound system. To hear that track you had to attend that sound systems show ..... some of these 'exclusives' ended up staying that way with just a few copies pressed up ... other became so popular, that they led to a regular 45 release & even (in some cases) to big sales (on the Islands themselves & overseas). Lots of Islands developed there own sound (Ja, Trinidad, Barbados, etc) but all were at least influenced by US R&B. QUESTION: Did the French 'Islands' also go along with the other island's R&B influenced music, don't know enough about the music made on them.

I'll probably get more criticism for expanding the 'theme' of this thread ... but here goes anyway ..... Everyone knows that Ja toasters inspired the early US rappers .... but who was it that got the toasters going in the 1st place. By all accounts it was Baltimore / Philly / New York / Miami radio DJ Jocko Henderson. Douglas "Jocko" Henderson ranks up there with the very best (& original) R&B radio disc jockeys. His smooth, swinging, rhymed talkovers were imitated by numerous other jocks in the 1950's / 60's and he was to become one of the major influences for later rappers. Though his influence on hip-hop was crucial, it took an indirect route as the model for the toasts of early Jamaican sound system DJ's. Some say that Jocko's syndicated radio shows, beamed into the Caribbean from Miami provided the standard for Jamaican DJ's. Another story claims that sound system promoter & record producer Coxsone Dodd encountered Jocko on one his record buying trips to the U.S., and encouraged his DJ's to imitate Jocko's style. However his influence reached Jamaica, titles like "The Great Wuga Wuga" by Sir Lord Comic and "Ace from Space" by U. Roy were catch phrases directly appropriated from Jocko's bag of verbal tricks. When Kool DJ Herc adapted the Jamaican sound system to New York City party crowds, the stylized public address patter that accompanied his bass heavy program was rooted in Jocko's rhyming jive patter. Jocko started in radio in the Baltimore of 1950, moving to Philadelphia, where he attained enough momentum to arrange a daily commute to New York for a 2nd shift. In New York, he also hosted "Jocko's Rocket Ship", a black oriented TV dance show. He also made many appearances as M.C. on R&B / soul shows (he MC'ed at the Apollo and hosted large scale record hops in ballrooms in various cities. Jocko also made a few records. In the wake of "Rapper's Delight", Philadelphia international released "Rhythm Talk", an instrumental track over which Jocko ran through his amazing repertoire of oral phrases. So it seems that Jocko was a major influence on the Ja music scene without him ever having set foot on the Island back in the day.

I meant to ask Frank (when I was chatting with him) who it was that steered all those Miami artists to him back in the day (loads having 45 releases on Phi-L.A. of Soul). I guess it was a radio DJ with a foot in both camps (Philly & Miami), so it was probably Douglas "Jocko" Henderson. Phil-L.A. of Soul artist & 45 listing -- https://www.globaldogproductions.info/p/phil_la_of_soul.html However chatting with Frank can be quite a task & I never got around to asking him the question. Anyone here know if it was Jocko's Rocketship radio show that led to all those Florida artists hooking up with Phi-L.A. of Soul (& other Philly labels) ??

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I respect your opinion Pete, but Mr. Rounce rubbished 2 posts I made here .... & I have now illustrated fully that his views were totally incorrect .... I have not hurled any abuse at him whilst he has referred to my posts as ' wildly inaccurate theories that are all of my own invention' and then called me a smartarse for proving him wrong. All I want to do is talk about soul music, but I will not just stand by while someone tries to destroy my reputation & make me out to be an idiot who indulges in wild fantasies. He may know a lot about Ja records BUT EVEN he don't know it all. Back to soul; a Ja 45 on RCA that had input from some heavyweights (Don Davis; Belita Woods; etc). Mind you, it would have been better if someone at Federal Records had looked where the RCA & Victor names were on the label before setting out the track info (& I'm sure Don Davis didn't run Groouesville Music).

Not a live club show, but a concert staged by ABC TV for broadcast purposes ... .... just a pity that no one at ABC TV knew how to spell Rufus's name !!

A few good acts on this August 1973 bill .....

Two ladies getting it on back in Jan 1974 ...... .. I didn't realise that Leata Galloway was performing (other than in musical plays) that early ... after all, she didn't land a record deal until the 1980's

Motown came to town in 1965 ..........

A Ja Tamla Motown 45 ...... manufactured by Dynamic Sounds ... ..... and they even managed to print up a decent quality label

The group the Jaguars were on the bill for a show at the Embassy Room in Baltimore on Nov 28th 1968 .... ... along with the likes of the Hesitations, Frankie Karl, the Esquires and Masked Man & the Agents. Which 'version' of the group would this have been ??

Another 'Atlantic family' label ...... On this one, the 'MFG by Dynamic Sounds' line seems to have been printed at the same time as the label name & logo (same colour ink used). But then what do I know about record manufacturing in the Islands. Think I'll have t ask that nice Mr. Rounce how they did it (after all, I'm sure he will have been there when this 45 was pressed up) !!!

Tony, I see you still have a high opinion for the data I'm posting (calling me a smartarse now). Just admit you were wrong in your original rubbishing of my post & your subsequent character assassination snipes ... and this whole matter can be laid to rest ... ... otherwise I'm sure folk will just think you are a sore loser who doesn't like his supposed depth of knowledge to be challenged.

And a second one that dates from 1975 .... ... if you can ignore the fact that this label has been fixed off-centre & the text printed at a skewed angle to the label layout ... .... to me this looks to have been made only a few months after the one in the above post .....

A Ja Atlantic 45 that supposedly dates from 1962 ....