Roburt

Well I posted that 'outside the DC club' photo on SDF about 2/3 years ago ..... maybe you copied it from there. I seem to recall someone related to a member of that group posting on the SDF thread (but the memory is shot, so I may be wrong). Ady also has info on the Cavaliers but I think his 'record keeping system' is even more chaotic than mine.

...Have you ever had or heard of any tape recordings from actual 'original' TW nights, Brasennose Street or Whitworth Street? NO, portable cassettes weren't really around till the end of the 60's & then they were a bit 'cutting edge' and no doubt no one thought of taking them along to a niter with them.

There were more than one set of 'Cavaliers'. I have a photo (on an old computer) of the DC based Cavaliers (taken outside a DC club where they had performed). If I recall correctly, the other Cavaliers included the brother of a Temptation (Paul Williams?) and were the group that became the Fellas that supported David Ruffin after he was kicked out of the Temptations. Not got the info with me at present but will sort it out & paste it here if no one else has it. The Cavaliers story is complicated coz of the fact there was more than one group that used the name. I don't recall either the Detroit connected or DC outfits having a white guy in their line-up, so the photo of the group shown above may be yet another version. ALSO ... didn't the guys who helped form the Temptations, when they were still down in Birmingham, call themselves the Cavaliers for at least a couple of years. A full run-down of the various groups who called themselves the Cavaliers could do with being drawn up. Also more than one set of Millionaires & Poets (didn't the Main Ingredient or similar group start out as a set of 'Poets'). Didn't the Mayfield Singers include Donny Hathaway & LeRoy Hutson in their line-up. I think the Nabay story is known (wasn't he of arab descent or sumat similar).

... IN ADDITION ..... back in the 60's, the BBC Light Prog was the station here that played most pop music. That station had more 'live music' on than records (due to rules in place back then). So a UK group could secure a 'live booking' on a Light Prog show and play their 45 track, so getting lots of exposure for their version. Listeners who liked the song would then go out & buy their version rather than the original (which they probably didn't even know existed).

Back in the 60's, most UK recording acts were looking for potential hit material to help launch / sustain their careers. UK record company A&R guys would get hold of copies of all new chart entry US 45's to 'find' potential songs for their labels acts to cut. When one 'likely tune' was come across, the task was to get one of their acts into the studio instantly, cut the song in a day (many times just copying the US original as closely as poss) and get it mastered, pressed & into the shops asap. That way they could 'beat' the original recording onto UK radio & hopefully get the British hit version. Don't forget that pre-pirate radio, most UK record spinning radio shows were told to play a very high proportion of Brit recordings than US. So they could play the UK cover but not (usually) the US original version. Pirate radio changed all that. Acts such as Georgie Fame, Dusty, etc loved US soul tracks and would cut their versions to pay homage to the original version. Many times, their UK label A&R guys had diffferent ideas and would select a particular track as a UK 45 A side when the artists just wanted them as LP tracks. Georgie Fame had a major bust-up with his UK label coz they kept putting out his' tribute covers' as 45 tracks when he hadn't wanted this to happen. Some times a UK label would even cut a Brit act on a song when they held the rights to release the US original anyway. It wasn't unknown for them to put both versions out here. So, I'd say it was more down to the label's A&R men than to a newly signed act what 'cover tracks' they cut.

Are these old Twisted Wheel night DJ sessions that you captured on cassette or are they from another venue / source ?? I used to attend niters all the time from mid 60's to 1970 but never got any OTO recordings back then. Have loads of old Searling radio shows captured on tape but they date from the early to mid 80's. Also got loads of unissued tracks & live recordings (Sam Dees, etc) on cassette that need to be 'saved'. Will have to get around to transferring lots of them to CD sometime (too much to do, too little time spare to do it in).

I'm away (again) at present, so do not at the moment have access to my bio on Eula (its on an old computer). When I get home, I'll copy it across & post it here. In the meantime, here's an old piece (not by me) about Eula & her 45 "Try" .... https://www.georgiaso...-tragar-6814-2/

Eula performing live at Prestatyn in 2009. I got to chat with her both before she arrived in the UK and at Prestatyn. I found her to be a very friendly, open & caring person. If anyone deserves our help, she does.

One of the reasons he got that title was a week like this .... ..... October 67 at the Howard Theatre in DC .... 17 shows in one 7 day long engagement & I'd guess he was on stage for over an hour during each show. ........... and he was just back from a European tour !!

An early Little LP ad ..... from 1961 .... Not meant for jukebox use, but to be sold direct to the public.

When I stated ... He had boxes of em back then & used to try to foist em on us 'Northerners' whenever we went into his shop ..... I couldn't say how many he actually had. Its just that we used to go down to London (on the train from Dony) & whenever we went into Soul City shop & he heard our Northern accents, he would put Tobi's track on & try to sell us a copy. We all bought one on our 1st visit but he tried the same trick everytime we went in after that (we knew better though & didn't 'waste' 15/- on a 2nd copy).

I believe that they usually featured around 6 tracks & that the covers were mini replicas of the full 12" album covers. So if the 12" album featured a full track listing on its front cover, the mini LP version also did. If you liked a track listed on the cover & it wasn't actually one of the 6 picked out from the full album track compliment (around 10 in all), it must have been very frustrating if you had obtained a copy of the 7" version.

Tobi Legend on Mala issue was easy to get back in the day .... at least it was for Dave Godin at Soul City Record shop. He had boxes of em back then & used to try to foist em on us 'Northerners' whenever we went into his shop.

Haven't waded through every post on this thread, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned .... ... but what was the late 60's / early 70's major label 45 that was only issued & distributed in Baltimore (which was stated on the 45's label) ... .... I used to know what the act / title was but the memory is fading away by the day.

A cover of Tyrone Davis's biggie ... which country was this cut in ?? Is the 45 from Venezuela or Mexico ?

...... Every time somebody buys say, Eddie Parker I'm Gone, for God knows how much what do you think Eddie Parker gets out of it ????? ............... a 'wet fish' slap in the face ???

Willie Mitchell Mini LP's ..............

Another Billboard piece (from 71) on Little LP's ............

Roger, as already stated coz they were 33rpm, you could easily fit 2 x 1960's length tracks on one side of a 7" disc. In lots of South American countries (Brazil being the main one), just about all 7" records were 33 rpm. Coz of that a 60's US 45 track when released in Brazil on 7" only used a tiny section of the vinyl with the run-out section takin up well over 50% of the grooved area. So, in Brazil, they tended to put out loads more EP's, thuss the vinyl area was used more effectively. Coz of that, there are loads of 60's & 70's LP tracks that only appear on 7" releases in Brazil.

And both the label & studio were in Nashville when this gospel 45 was issued ..........

The Minors "Lonely Boy" .............

Motown still seemed to be putting out mini LP's well into the 70's ..... ... anyone know when their last 7" jukebox mini LP was released (by the date of issue of the 12" album version it was lifted from) ??

The Baltimore Bomar label ..............

By early 1971, Redisco was unloading its old Bomar 7" mini LP's at discount rates to clear the 'back-stock' ....

The US never bought into the EP concept (always big in the UK, Europe & Sth America) .... the vast majority of the 4 track 7" LP's they put out were edited LP's or jukebox items to promote various artists LP's. I have a few various artist 7" US LP's that obviously weren't just being used to promote a single LP but they were still called mini or little LP's in the US .... By 1969, Baltimore's Bomar label had expanded into 45 releases itself ..........