Roburt

The RCA Cavaliers teamed up with David Ruffin after he was booted out of the Temptations. They became his 'Fellas' & even played live gigs with David until Motown got him to return as a solo artist ....

The RCA (Detroit) set of Cavaliers & a 1967 45 release .....

Another outfit that used the name in the 60's .... .... this lot had some hits (but weren't soul related at all) ....

Another scan that shows info on the 62 Cavaliers 45 .....

1962 >> the Cavaliers (with Lloyd Nash) on Gum .... (sorry its a poor quality scan but you can just about make stuff out on it) ...

A bit on the 61 Cavaliers .... Anyone know anything more about them ?

The 1961 Cavaliers ................

So the 1958 group recorded in New York .... .... & were the group that included a white guy ...

Down the years there have been a number of outfits that have used the name .... the Cavaliers ..... as soul fans we are mainly interested in the 1960's outfits that used the name but the others do make the facts surrounding the various groups harder to pin down. There were singing groups using the neme as far back as the 40's, more in the 50's & yet more in the 60's ..... .... this is an attempt at sorting them all out ............. As there were many sets of 'Cavaliers', here's info on a few of them ..... A photo of the DC based Cavaliers (taken outside a DC club where they had performed) will follow shortly. If I recall correctly, the Detroit related (RCA) Cavaliers included the brother of a Temptation (Paul Williams?) and were the group that became the Fellas that supported David Ruffin after he was kicked out of the Temptations. Not got the info with me at present but will sort it out & paste it here if no one else has it. Neither the Detroit connected or DC outfits had a white guy in their line-up, the photo of the group showing a white guy in the line-up is yet another version using the name (see later ad). ALSO ... the guys who helped form the Temptations, when they were still down in Birmingham, call themselves the Cavaliers for at least a couple of years (but didn't record under the name). A full run-down of the various groups who called themselves the Cavaliers should be drawn up & this is my attempt at making a start. The 1958 group .................

I really want to see a Japanese 45 label scan for "The Jerks" by Larks !!!!! The list also contains "Boogaloo Down Broadway" by Paul Revere & the Raiders .... so I guess it contains a few other errors.

BTW, I'm only interested in the soul 45's on the list ...............

Here's a list of all the non-Japanese recorded 45's that were hits in Japan ..... .... so I guess all of them should be quite easy to find copies of !!! So have our 'Japanese issued 45' collectors got a copy of them all ??

The Detroit related Cavaliers, who had backed up David Ruffin as his 'Fellas' were predicted to be the 'next big thing' ..... ..... but it never happened as they were dropped by their 'handlers' and no recordings were released.

Well I posted that 'outside the DC club' photo on SDF about 2/3 years ago ..... maybe you copied it from there. I seem to recall someone related to a member of that group posting on the SDF thread (but the memory is shot, so I may be wrong). Ady also has info on the Cavaliers but I think his 'record keeping system' is even more chaotic than mine.

...Have you ever had or heard of any tape recordings from actual 'original' TW nights, Brasennose Street or Whitworth Street? NO, portable cassettes weren't really around till the end of the 60's & then they were a bit 'cutting edge' and no doubt no one thought of taking them along to a niter with them.

There were more than one set of 'Cavaliers'. I have a photo (on an old computer) of the DC based Cavaliers (taken outside a DC club where they had performed). If I recall correctly, the other Cavaliers included the brother of a Temptation (Paul Williams?) and were the group that became the Fellas that supported David Ruffin after he was kicked out of the Temptations. Not got the info with me at present but will sort it out & paste it here if no one else has it. The Cavaliers story is complicated coz of the fact there was more than one group that used the name. I don't recall either the Detroit connected or DC outfits having a white guy in their line-up, so the photo of the group shown above may be yet another version. ALSO ... didn't the guys who helped form the Temptations, when they were still down in Birmingham, call themselves the Cavaliers for at least a couple of years. A full run-down of the various groups who called themselves the Cavaliers could do with being drawn up. Also more than one set of Millionaires & Poets (didn't the Main Ingredient or similar group start out as a set of 'Poets'). Didn't the Mayfield Singers include Donny Hathaway & LeRoy Hutson in their line-up. I think the Nabay story is known (wasn't he of arab descent or sumat similar).

... IN ADDITION ..... back in the 60's, the BBC Light Prog was the station here that played most pop music. That station had more 'live music' on than records (due to rules in place back then). So a UK group could secure a 'live booking' on a Light Prog show and play their 45 track, so getting lots of exposure for their version. Listeners who liked the song would then go out & buy their version rather than the original (which they probably didn't even know existed).

Back in the 60's, most UK recording acts were looking for potential hit material to help launch / sustain their careers. UK record company A&R guys would get hold of copies of all new chart entry US 45's to 'find' potential songs for their labels acts to cut. When one 'likely tune' was come across, the task was to get one of their acts into the studio instantly, cut the song in a day (many times just copying the US original as closely as poss) and get it mastered, pressed & into the shops asap. That way they could 'beat' the original recording onto UK radio & hopefully get the British hit version. Don't forget that pre-pirate radio, most UK record spinning radio shows were told to play a very high proportion of Brit recordings than US. So they could play the UK cover but not (usually) the US original version. Pirate radio changed all that. Acts such as Georgie Fame, Dusty, etc loved US soul tracks and would cut their versions to pay homage to the original version. Many times, their UK label A&R guys had diffferent ideas and would select a particular track as a UK 45 A side when the artists just wanted them as LP tracks. Georgie Fame had a major bust-up with his UK label coz they kept putting out his' tribute covers' as 45 tracks when he hadn't wanted this to happen. Some times a UK label would even cut a Brit act on a song when they held the rights to release the US original anyway. It wasn't unknown for them to put both versions out here. So, I'd say it was more down to the label's A&R men than to a newly signed act what 'cover tracks' they cut.

Are these old Twisted Wheel night DJ sessions that you captured on cassette or are they from another venue / source ?? I used to attend niters all the time from mid 60's to 1970 but never got any OTO recordings back then. Have loads of old Searling radio shows captured on tape but they date from the early to mid 80's. Also got loads of unissued tracks & live recordings (Sam Dees, etc) on cassette that need to be 'saved'. Will have to get around to transferring lots of them to CD sometime (too much to do, too little time spare to do it in).

I'm away (again) at present, so do not at the moment have access to my bio on Eula (its on an old computer). When I get home, I'll copy it across & post it here. In the meantime, here's an old piece (not by me) about Eula & her 45 "Try" .... https://www.georgiaso...-tragar-6814-2/

Eula performing live at Prestatyn in 2009. I got to chat with her both before she arrived in the UK and at Prestatyn. I found her to be a very friendly, open & caring person. If anyone deserves our help, she does.

One of the reasons he got that title was a week like this .... ..... October 67 at the Howard Theatre in DC .... 17 shows in one 7 day long engagement & I'd guess he was on stage for over an hour during each show. ........... and he was just back from a European tour !!

An early Little LP ad ..... from 1961 .... Not meant for jukebox use, but to be sold direct to the public.

When I stated ... He had boxes of em back then & used to try to foist em on us 'Northerners' whenever we went into his shop ..... I couldn't say how many he actually had. Its just that we used to go down to London (on the train from Dony) & whenever we went into Soul City shop & he heard our Northern accents, he would put Tobi's track on & try to sell us a copy. We all bought one on our 1st visit but he tried the same trick everytime we went in after that (we knew better though & didn't 'waste' 15/- on a 2nd copy).

I believe that they usually featured around 6 tracks & that the covers were mini replicas of the full 12" album covers. So if the 12" album featured a full track listing on its front cover, the mini LP version also did. If you liked a track listed on the cover & it wasn't actually one of the 6 picked out from the full album track compliment (around 10 in all), it must have been very frustrating if you had obtained a copy of the 7" version.