Steve G

I thought it was more late 60's judging my the matrix number But I could be wrong - I have been wrong on this tricky thread once before. So Pete S would presumably also like things like the Aristocrats, in fact the uptempo "Mecca" type sound, when the Mecca was "cutting edge". Good, I thought for one moment that anything post 1969 was "condemned", I am glad it isn't.

Those two are bad enough Dave. My "least loved" 70's, and so so over rated.

What you mean there wasn't a Soussan "instrumental version" played at Wigan?

Hey Pete - is this yet another "sub-genre"?

I think you've touched on another factor that hasn't helped the serious "vinyl head" in recent years, and may be a factor leading to fewer people wanting to part with their hard earned for "unknowns" - the proliferation of expensive "dodgy" 45's. Johnny Watson, 7 Wonders of the World, Vandals, Jeannie & Valaquons, David Rhodes, and a few records I've seen on E-bay recently that have enough gloss on the vinyl for the average male to safely use as a substiture for a shaving mirror without fear of "bladeslip". I remember one collector showing me one of the aforementioned, which he'd just "shelled out" a relatively serious wedge for, and looking totally deflated when being told it wasn't "real". I think he pretty much gave up the ghost after that.

Cheers - needed something to get my brain working this morning....

1 ZZ & Co 3 Ike Strong 5 John & The Weirdest What do I win?

Jeepers Col. That sounds bad. Did you get your money back? It makes you wonder why he keeps going and doesn't just call it a day.

Amen brother.

Godz this is not a dig at you. just pointing out that there may be a reason why. I know of one person on this site that has had a major problem with reading & writing, we dont know people`s backgrounds or upbringing & they could be put off from joining in. We all make mistakes when we are posting/replying due to emotions, distractions ect ect. Garv. link

Are we 100% sure he'd know what the correct "matrix number" was?

I thought he now owned a "CD player" though? I do know to my cost that he cannot reverse a car round a corner.

Bad spelling indeed? "Just what the hell YOUR talking about" ? "Kettle and Pot" there my friend. Ever thought of getting a former teacher like "Sam" to check your drafts? Only joking.

Ypu may well have unwittingly stumbled across "Russ Winstanley's" record collection then.

Patience patience my friend.

OK, so it's confirmed then, we are not alone as we suspected; I expect to see some "Financial Futures" trading on the value of people's collections at this rate.... The new programme should be interesting if nothing else (and not just for the records), and I agree that we don't want our records "languishing" in picture frames in non soul collector circles; it does make for interesting times though. I still think it's only the "Trophy" records that'll hold (or even increase) in value, and the rest will in time vanish into the "ether" value wise.

I actually think the "club" side will "peter out" ahead of the "collecting" side, aside from occasional weekender / convention type "do's".

Equally though "60's" might put other people off (down this way it would). And really those "super" groups had their biggest hits in the UK in the 70's, as did Major Harris (Love won't let me wait etc). Probably best to not "decade" the flyers at all then.

Has this been confirmed? I have heard ticket sales were "disappointing" ? Why did the promotors take on so many venues I wonder?

Interesting, and this confirms my suspecions; it shouldn't be forgotten however that there are of course a few "City types" out there who do actually collect soul music for what it is, rather than the "investment". Not sure how they "vote" though - does anybody still bother with this quaint practice of "voting"? Moving on....I am surprised that rare soul hasn't featured more on all of these "Lifestyle TV channels" with the likes of "Boot Fair trampledown", "David Dickinson" and the like telling us to look in "Granny's attic" for her old records - I am sure it will come when they get bored with Pottery and cheap art

They were quite popular at the time as a group, and had a quite sizeable "club hit" in contemporary soul clubs with things like "Broken man"....This one wasn't so popular, as it came later when tastes were changing, and presumably due to the totally "naff" lyrics. I still maintain they are singing about something other than their "best mate", despite veherement "protestations" to the contrary from trusted friends such as Soul Sam and Nige Mayfield.

That's settled then. Thanks for the clarification.

Mark, I suspect this phenomenon has already started with some of the "Trophy" records. Without wishing to sound "Regionalist" I do not think that all of our friends in the USA who are buying these things are neccesarily into the music as far as I can make out. I exclude from that a number who obviously are....but I sense a number are purely "speculating" on an investment, and probably do the same with "rare" music of other genres. It will be interesting though, and a number of very good points have been made on this thread already. Frankly if I am 75 and my records are not worth much by then, what do I care, I can't take them with me, and will have had a lifetime's enjoyment out of them, and that's what really counts at the end of the day.

I think one of them was covered up as Wigan by BigSoulMan and played as "The Incredible Soul Twins "Soulful Gertcha"

Completely agree, I hadn't even considered those items, nor things like the Futures etc....all of which are distorted price wise as you say...