Steve G

It's one side of an LP, the other side has never been found.... Add in Bill Brandon's second Prelude Lp - another "one sider" test press.

Let's see - extra time being played..... It certainly was on 45 - not the 15 minute LP version though, as with Dave G I would need to "check" personal copy for details.

Wasn't meant to be Kirsty

I think the record was mis pressed and therefore not distributed properly. From memory the B side is a different group entirely?

Gooooaaaallll!!! Recount agreed - you win!

Cheers. I was beginning to wonder whether this thread had been deleted, such was the pausity of interest! I am sure there are many more similar cases.....Steve

Sh*t rare - easily into four figs with a waiting list as long as your arm - may I recommend a Grapevine 2000 issue instead.

Gooooaaaallllll!!! That has to be the longest 45 so far Mike.

I mark you right Tone, thought I didn't hear complete sets of any of the DJ's, only parts - preferring to spent large swathes of my time on Saturday in the record bar (there is only so much 120 bpm megamixes that I can tolerate). Re this house / garage point - I think that's largely the way the modern scene has gone now, but that's why I think it's futile trying to mix in good 70's etc. in the same room. My observation is that the guys playing the new stuff don't tend to be the guys breaking new 70's. Was there much southern / indie played in the modern room? I know a number of modern fans find the indies "boring" but I don't.

Following on from Mal C's Ernest Baker thread, and the US practice of putting on 45s "from a forthcoming album"*, I wonder whether we've ever got a list of mouthwatering ALBUMS THAT NEVER WERE. *A to garner interest, and B sometimes because they'd recorded enough tracks for an album and would put one out if the 45 sold. So to kick off then Mal C offers Ernest Baker "Alone again" (Blue SOul) I'd start with: Jesse Fisher "Honey" (SoJamm) LP "I can't stop loving you" Tierra "Just Loving you" LP "Great love".........

Maceo & All The Kings Men "Thank you for letting me by myself again" on UK Pye a stylus busting 6:17 !!!!!

A very interesting thread. Let me indulge in a couple of observations: Mark has always been a DJ to play new records and full credit to him for that. When I first started on the northern scene I didn't know any of the records - and that was one of the main attractions I must say - a completely unknown set of music to explore and discover. And so it is with new releases - you never know what's in new this week - so there is a kind of constant anticipation. With regard to the modern versus 70's debate....... As time goes on 70's / Xover sits less and less comfortably with modern soul. For a number of years now - especially at weekenders I have watched as DJ's have tried to bridge the gap with mixed sets, but have felt increasingly uncomfortable with a number of them - including myself. Bluntly it's not working. At this point as others have said 70s / x-over music has far more in common with northern than it does with 2006 new releases. Yet this form of music is largely shunned and unwanted by the northern fraternity (except for some really played out stuff which has "crossed over" onto the northern scene). So my view on all this - whilst I accept that some people like both genres crossover and 70s doesn't sit comfortably in the large "modern room" format at weekenders either, possibly except for some anthemic oldies in the last hour or two. Thus I reiterate what I have said on another thread new 70's and crossover would be better catered for with a seperate room at this point, rather than trying to keep these increasingly odd bedfellows together. This would allow the "modern room" to really focus on newer releases as it does at places like the Bass Museum. It would also allow the new x-over / 70's folks a real outlet to her new and lesser played items.....Soul on, Sam....oops...no I made that last bit up!

Very sad news....

Yes Players / 20 Grands Columbia release - indeed it is. Actually wasn't aware of the desirability / relative rarity of this until speaking with NY's finest - Greg Tormo a couple of years back. Got a mint copy for $4 off of ebay a few years back.

Unmarked and used notes only

...and Sliced Tomatoes was in there as well.

One at Clee on the Soul Bowl stall.

Mentioning chip shops they have some of the best shop names - The Codfather in N London The Frying Scotsman in Corby etc etc.... Steve

Someone to carry your record box Ady?

Agree with all the posts on here - very good song, it hasn't even been played that much (perhaps explaining the empty dancefloor!). Would be a real shame if some greed merchant killed it off before it has it's day. Sigher - you will encounter all sorts of odd people in your quest for vinyl. I think we often labour under the misapprehension that everyone in the US recording business is friendly, keen and honest as a day is long. Unfortunately for everyone like that there's a greedy rip off merchant - twas ever so, and probably will ever be so.

Sort of got into soul myself via listening to radio stations like Radio Northsea International and Radio Luxemborg and of course acts like the 4 Tops who were seemingly on TOTP every other week with their suits and slick moves. Soul was THE happening thing in the early 70s. Especially down in Kent where all the discos played soul and reggae at the time, and rock music was confined to grubby old greasers and a lone pub in Tun Wells. The next door neighbour who was in his 30s at the time liked something called "Tamla Motown" and had these Chartbuster LPs that were just coming out, which I thought was interesting. Got my apetite for northern from a variety of sources. I became aware of it reading Black Music / B&S, and then seeing a couple of older lads dancing to these records (Steve Noble and Kim Styles). Inevitably was dancing to the same records and that led to conversations like "You go to Wigan?" etc. (which I hadn't at the time). I saved up (was still in school) and went with them. It then developed so there were at least 12-15 of us travelling to all nighters regularly. The records became an obsession whilst I was still at school - you just HAD to have the sounds.

Seems like someone needs to have a word on prices..... https://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-MCDONALD-45s-SOUL-...1QQcmdZViewItem https://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-MCDONALD-SWEET-MAG...1QQcmdZViewItem

On the vocal front Gwen is far stronger, but if you like the helpless girl thing then Vanessa sounds convincingly unsure of herself on her songs - and that's the way Reid / Clarke wanted her to sound. I actually prefer Kandrick even though she's no powerhouse in the vocal department. As jordi says it's an earthier arrangement. And that's not taking anything away from Gwen, who'se great as well. Ernest Mosely - miles better than the Shepperds - really surprised me on this one. The Shepperds a poor substitute. Junior Walker - I agree entirely. Bay Brothers etc. pap. Eddie Jacobs Exchange - f***ing great record. The production has so much going on in it, played over a decent system it'll leave most people gasping. And a great B side too.

Long before wanting to go out with a girl into northern my son fessed up to the Royal Esquires - he liked it because it reminded him of Drum N Bassjava script:emoticon:ohmy:

I've known John for nearly 30 years now. Top bloke he is too