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  1. It's always worth burning a copy of your acetates though I've watched and weeped as the sound quality has deteriorated on a few of my early purchases right in front of my eyes
  2. I'll be the first to admit it then, as pop records I think both the Paul Anka'a are credible efforts. WWGT was also massive at the Casino c 1977-8 - interesting to watch the DVD's of him singing this - Anka forgets the words, and the crowd look thoroughly disinterested in the whole affair.
  3. Cheers - think this place has real potential - It'll be moving to Saturday's soon, so hopefully that will help......Steve
  4. I think in the early days when I first got into Northern he was quite influencial, as his columns captured a vibrant scene with loads happening and it was all a bit of a mystery to a young 15 year old. Living in Kent I could only imagine how great some of these weekly soul nights "oop't norf" sounded. And his early reviews of the Casino and elsewhere captured the spirit of togetherness that everyone seemingly had. You got the impression from reading his columns that the scene was huge, and that once you passed the Watford gap there was nothing but "northern" wherever you went, when in reality it was always a minority sport, even in Wigan and Manchester. With time, age, travel and increasing sophistication / knowledge the column did lose it's appeal, and by 1977/8 just looked like a name check for the good, the bad and the ugly of the scene. Real information was sparce, and it was really just a pluggers paradise - bit like the Wambler in Echoes, only with a couple of pics of soul girls in clubs to add interest. I remember one column from that era where he erroneously transcribed some of Russ's titles , that was really when I saw it for what it was. And as others have said, the move to Jazz Funk which was happening post the Mecca split, and which Elson championed over all else. Seemed a nice enough cove though whenever I spoke to him.
  5. Can't disagree with this it is totally annoying when this happens. Maybe he works for Customs himself.... either that or he thinks he'll go to jail for 900 years if he's caught fiddling - who knows - pretty unsophisticated some of these folks....
  6. Can be pricey Now there's an understatement if I ever heard one Malc....
  7. Richard I remember going and we reviewed it in Blackbeat at the time. Will try and dig out that review and post it for those that weren't there.
  8. A slight variation on Miss Popcorn's "I don't have a record player anymore but visually the record looks fine" = VG- This one's really pissy. Others I hate are: "lots of gloss" = I f*cking painted it with boot polish "You'll never see another copy in this condition" - Yeah right! "Northern soul monster" = Dawn "Tie a yellow ribbon"
  9. ....and if I rememebr rightly the official A side isn't too shabby either. Kenny Lynch production?
  10. None of us had cars so we went by train everywhere. Persil tickets etc. Fortunately the journey to Wigan was not too tortuous. But getting back was - as Col says realistically we'd get back to Kent mid Sunday afternoon!
  11. 4 of them - 1985/1986. Papa Luigi's Bridge St Peterborough.
  12. ....and the Nurons "All of my life"
  13. Some nice stuff there Robin - not sure I even remember New Mexico! Certainly takes me back to some heady days in the early 80's...... Like that time when I was coming over to yours and the train from Peterborough collided with a tractor at Oakham rendering it useless Seem to recall having to find a phone box and your very kindly driving out to pick me up from the middle of nowhere. I wonder is Glyn Thornhill still writing a book about it all?
  14. Hi there Mike Yes some of the articles were about the Philly sound (which was new at the time). I seem to remember they were quite a good read. And yes he is passionate about trains. Aren't we all? Steve
  15. Yes I have all of the Blackbeats. As for Kev - he was a big ego if that constitues character Yes he lost interest in the scene many years ago. Other points: Yes Wigan did die a slow and lingering death numbers wise, Yes Wigan usually played pop. First off the Soussan instrumentals and US pop records, but from Mid 77 the UK pop crapola from Mr W and Mr M. I think the window between 76-77 may actually have been the most soulful. Up until 1980 that is, as you'll see from the review I was generally enthused by the sounds being played. Russ W started playing things like Prince Buster after that, which is fine except it wasn't northern soul. Back in that day it was interesting to see how much the fashion played a part. While we were still stomping about in Spencer loon pants in Kent and looking like a bunch of girls, the kids up north were dressing like the kids down south - it was really quite bizarre - hence my comments on the clothing. That was all part of it when we were kids, as was the sense of belonging to a scene. Anyway glad a number of you liked it.....more anon....!!!
  16. Here is a very old review of Wigan Casino from Blackbeat. View full article
  17. Here is a very old review of Wigan Casino I did. We'd stopped going in 1978, and having heard one of Sam's spot's at Bedford, I decided to venture north once more recording the visit in Blackbeat. Usual health warning - please remember I was very young when I wrote this, but I wonder how many cover up's can be uncovered from this article. From Blackbeat Issue 4 Wigan Casino May 1980 Review My first visit to Wigan for over a year (it costs over 25 on the train for us). Firstly we sussed MP Cyril Smith on the train scoffing sandwiches (is this the Liberals solution to the problem of the EEC food mountains I ask?). By the time we reached Warrington I realized that things ain't what they used to be. In the old days we would have seen about 50 folk board the train complete with baggie trousers, bags covered in patches etc. Today however the soulies wear conventional clothes, just the same as you would see anywhere in the south. This was to be borne out by the fact that in the Casino itself there were only about three people in baggies. Most were wearing jeans, some straight, some zoots. The next surprise was to be getting in. In the old days it was tightly packed pushing for about an hour and murder. The Casino still opens at 12.30, and there are still two doors open. However the attendance has dropped somewhat and that makes the getting in very easy it took me about five minutes. They say things don't change and the Casino's atmosphere certainly doesn't. Of course Russ Winstanley was the first spinner. Russ seemed to be playing several pop cover versions of Motown numbers. Worse though was an instrumental of "Sweet talking guy". Unfortunately he played a couple of sounds that resembled Helen Shapiro. I thought we had got over all of that. One of the most popular stompers for Russ was The Seeds "Pushing too hard" released in this country on Vocallion; it is a rock collectors classic and as such not fit for Wigan. With the upsurge in popularity for 70's dancers, Russ had to play some as well. Included in his spot were The O'Jays "I love music", Isaac Hayes "Disco Connection" and 21st Creation's "Tailgate" a sound I remember Colin Curtis playing back in 1977. "Disco Connection" is a monster at the Casino now. Also big for him were Barnaby Bye, and Johnny Williams "You're something kind of mellow", a Levine sound of a couple of years ago. At 2.15 Richard Searling took over and the music changed to rare soul. Kick off sound was Frankie Karl and the Chevrons, a very popular record from the 60's, followed by the Delgado(?) cover up, and the now immortal Eddie Holman "Where I'm not wanted". We swung into the 80's with the very popular Skip Mahoney "Janice" and then back into the 70's with what surely is the best sound on the scene at the moment James Mack and The Chicago Gangsters "You're love pushed me over the top" cover up. That really packed the floor as did the Brainstormers c/u. After Al Johnson & The Hit Men's "Just ask me" came Oscar Perry and the very funky Lee More and the Resourceful Ones "You're love keeps me dancing. It was then back to the 60's for more covered sounds, (and non covered sounds) Frank Wilson, Bobby Kennedy, the Nomads incredible "Something's bad" and a great midtempo sound called "Dancing a hole in the world" by the suspect sounding Tony Hestor and the Detroit Delights Orchestra. The spot also included Vicky Baines "Country girl" which has been massive for two years now and the Joe Matthews c/u "I don't like to lose" rumoured to be the Orchid's on Kool Kat. Before retiring to the record bar I heard the other version of "Love slipped through my fingers" which gives Sam Williams a run for it's money. "He's so fine" the Judy Street cover up I didn't like. Pat Brady was on next playing a mix of 60s and 70s sounds. Included in which were Eddie Jacobs Exchange "Can't seem to get you out of my mind" covered up as Ronnie McNeir, and the same as the 4 Tops, but judging by the ZTSC number it wasn't released until the 70s. The Frank Dell Band cover up, and the Volcanoes "Showstopper cover up; both went down well as did the slowest record of the night the Lou Brown c/u. At about 4.45 Gary Rushbrooke took over playing The Sweet, which he insists on still calling "Chester Pipkin", Frankie Karl & The Chevrons again, The Salvadors pacey "Come on and love me" cover up and the very popular Velvet Hammer's "Happy" (not a cover up). From the 70's we had James Mack and the CG's again, and Wil Collins and Willpower from 1976 (again not a cover up). I could not help noticing though how empty the place looked after about 4.00 with Mr M's open and the sleepers asleep parts of the hall were near on deserted with the dancefloor having fewer than 35 people on it at times a very saddening sight as one who can remember the Casino when it used to be packed. Anyway after a while Sam appears on the stage with his box (just about the only thing he has not got covered up), but then goes away again without having done a DJ spot. Brian Rea then took over with some oldies. Popular were the real James (Jimmy) Mack and "My world is on fire" (which originally came out of a soul pack would you believe!), Billy Arnell, The Appollas "Mr Creator" and of course Billy Prophet. Old father Evison finished off "Burning spear" still proving popular along with the Fife Piper. The Record bar, a shadow of it's former self, was quite bustling which surprised me. On sale were three E J Chandler's for a fiver each and three copies of Eddie Jacobs Exchange, as well as George Kirby for 5. Having been round to a friend's that afternoon I heard how some guy had found a UK Hickory demo of "Queen of fools" at a record fair that morning. Well sure enough the same guy was at Wigan that night with the record on sale guess who he sold it too? Yes Keith Minshull for a tidy sum (for a sum reputed to be around 50). All in all an enjoyable night to be had at the Casino still. The numbers are down on what they used to be, though one guy told me that they were up on what they had been (which makes we wonder the place must have been really empty). There are spaces on the dancefloor where there never used to be and at times there are mighty big spaces too. With the exception of about five pop records from the oldies jocks and a few from Russ, I am glad to say that the musical content was 100% soul, being split about 65% from the 60s and 35% from the 70s / 80's. The most popular dancefloor packers seemed on the whole to be the newer sounds from the 70's. The only thing that spoilt my enjoyment was the sadness reflected at how the place had lost so many regulars. Ironic really isn't it, the place is now more soulful than it's ever been, and the sounds played have never been better (nearly all soul), that the attendance is also at it's lowest ever.
  18. Here is a very old review of Wigan Casino from Blackbeat. Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full
  19. Soul Sam's review of Mind & Matter and Cecil Lyde....as promised.... Mind & Matter "I'm under your spell" (M&M Records 5002-011) The Merlin & Magicians cover up, released in 1977, without any indication where it's from. Begins with bongo run down, before vibes, percussion and synthesized organ effect lay down a solid rhythm over which the mellow lead tells of the power of his young lady, aided by expressive male chorus. great wailing mid way thru', strong hook too, and tempo changes all add to an ideal dancer and listener. Flip "Sunshine lady" has storm effect on the intro before breaking into a similar style to the top side, slightly slower but another strong tune and vocal performance. I know when I first heard this disc, I wasn't sure which side to use, this having a very unusual organ riff half way through. Cecil Lyde "I'll make it on my own" (Alwest 920-49) The former Charles Johnson cover up, a 1981 release with no state info. Probably the best of the ten reviewed, unfortunately stuck on the B side of a mediocre routine funk track "Happy feeling". Onto the side that matters, Charles ( ) has distinctive quite high, yet soft voice, the record has a gutsy modern backing track, with precise percussion, synth and brass, answering a female chorus. Most importantly it has a strong memorable tune, putting it in a different league from the 'dancers only' discs.
  20. Priceless - well another mystery solved. You know I never figured that out in all those years The Kim Weston looks pretty knack'd though
  21. Here is a really ancient article from mid 1980 just when we were getting into these new releases. I was quite a young thing back then so these were literallyt reviews of the latest soulful releases. Interesting because a few of them went on to become sizeable scene sounds - at the time they were just new releases. This was before Sam's column in Blackbeat, though we did know each other and were talking and corresponding about the same records back then. Suppliers were mostly Soul Bowl and John Manship. July 1980 Old Blackbeat Issue 4 Recent Releases Reviewed - 80's Soul by Steve Guarnori Rudy Stewart "I wanna love you all over" (Delmar Intl) Written and produced by NY's Delmar Donnell, comes this late 1979 release. Described as a left field dancer, the voice has to be heard to be believed. An electric backing and nice break - but what a voice - screaming with soul. Love Committee "I made a mistake" (MCA) Now well known for the LP "Boogie Papers", this record from Feb 80 has the lot. Tied up with the O'Jays (as they are) the Love Committee really get to grips with this one. A rather slick beat with some fine singing from the group. Charles Johnson "Never had a love so good" (Alston) B side to "Baby I cried" this came out in April in the States. Quite laid back with a nice mid tempo pace of soul - again a fine voice (where are they all coming from) as Charles compliments his missus. Nice electric piano and all. Masqueraders "Desire" (Bang) Guitar intro, then strings, then these stalwarts come busting in "Desire is burning in my heart for you". Good full force vocals on this March release "Imagination working overtime". There's a good instrumental bit in the middle, this sounds made for the US Top 30! Collins & Collins "Please don't break my heart" (A&M) Penned by John Monster Davis, there's some good mellow singing here. Collins & Collins comprise one guy and one girl. The beat is quite heavy, the record itself is quite funky, it's not that fast and the singing is quite mellow. Title tells us what the song is all about. The flip is worthy of your attention called "Top of the stairs", quite laid back with fine vocals. Who is Mr Collins? (could it be Wil?). Masterpiece "The girl's alright with me" (Whitfield) Another 1980 release, the old Eddie Kendricks, Norman Whitfield and Eddie Holland penned sound. Finger clicking good - it reminds me somewhat of "Sad Girl" - modern but danceable - falsetto singing and classic lyrics "She's sugar and spice and everything nice" Chuck Cissell "Don't tell me your sorry" (Arista) A 1979 B side to "Forever". Tremendous and covered up by Kev Griffin and others as Bobby Hutton "Sorry don't work". This is a brilliant newie which ahs really got a hold on me. Nice laid back tune and a tremendous voice - buy it!
  22. Mark yes will do that. Cheers Sean.
  23. I agree and say that as a label collector I just couldn't bring myself to buy the kippers - there are quite a few in the 500 series. While we're on the subject vaguely does anyone know what the stamped on numbers are for on London demos. I used to think it was some sort of cataloging system for where the demos went, but have recently noticed that A and B side numbers are different. Most of mine are two hundred and something e.g. 235?
  24. Pete is a good egg. He also used to write a column in Bull & Sh1t (Blues & Soul). Think it was just a slip of the tongue - these things happen when you're doing a "rap". I've done speaches when I've heard them played back you think "Gawd did I say that?". He does of course know his Detroit from his Chicago. Didn't he also pop up on a Wigan documentary at some stage as well? I seem to have this vague recollection of him dancing with coalminers or something
  25. Cheers Mark - another early article tomorrow, one from 1980 in fact.


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