Steve G

I love that record - one of the most energetic northern soul oldies of all time Another RCA one in the same vein Herb Ward - Honest to goodness Both these records smack you in the gob.

This thread is going very slowly. Behaviours are obviously not as bizarre as I thought!!!

I have seen some very strange things happening at gigs mentioned in posts in the last few weeks. - ATB night where the focus is on rare and underplayed sounds and the DJ is pestered to play "The Snake" - Prince Phillip Mitchell "I'm so happy" described as a "newie" - another DJ asked to play some northern when "It'll never be over for me" is on - Trouble playing High Voltage and being told "it's not northern mate" - a venue with no paying public at all - claims that DJs will obviously do bookings because they are "well paid" on the northern scene I know in Herts / Beds we are largely protected from some of the "stranger" elements of the northern scene maybe because most people are happy to have a venue to go to, but what is going on? It all sounds it's gone a bit weird to me

It's still on the wants list

Oh sorry - the title on your thread says Eddie kendricks, so I thought you were one of these returnees who'd just heard it at Wigan but couldn't remember who it was. Steve

Anyone ever seen one on a 7". I am pretty certain it exists and Richard had it at one point, but it's fecking rare. It's the only gap in my Philly Groove collection.

I have gone off to find some soul police to see if order can be restored. I might be some time

Willie Kendricks on RCA. Mid 60s recording. Steve

Thought the CD came first, and the single was only issued due to demand (and wasn't it to co-incide with his UK tour?) - might have got that last bit wrong. Like the Contours Which begs the question why would Tamla Motown issue the Contours on a mainstream UK 45 release if it hadn't had any exposure? OK fair enough they did just that it seems, but it strikes me as odd - good work on their part though.

OK but why the two identities Simon?

The No 1 thing I ever did when I found myself in Mr M's was find the door so I could get the f*ck back out into the main room

Eh? Another daft post from you - get a grip man! Someone mentioned me or the Steve G guy from York (not sure which) and Stubbsy replies "no he's established". What is your point and why are you posting under two identities still (Simon M and Dancingcollector)?

We all thought it was Tiny Tim at the time - and it was awful - reckon that's why it got dropped. Horrid record.

Everyone forgets it, but was played almost every week whenever I went Chris Peterson "Just as much"

That is really really sad - I mean you get a guy with the quality of records that John Manship has in his box and people ask him for The Snake, and QOF

Just noticed by copy of G Tyler / R Davis is snapped - weight of other records caused that.

Yes that is true, but it is also not the point Simon. The point was it is v hard to break new stuff at soul nights these days.

Very good Roger. Made me smile.

Des One man's new tune is another man's oldie. Played Willie Feaster at Hitchin Friday - it cleared the floor. I remember hearing Butch play it last year at Lifeline and it packed the floor. As Andy has said very hard to break new tunes these days, especially at soul nights, but we should all keep persevering.

Shouldn't we include that one too?

most shops in NY RIDICULOUSLY priced - $25 for a £5 record etc.

You on "Soul Police" duty Simon?

How ironic is this - last tune played by Steve High frequency "Summertime"

Enough about Sean and his salary Seriously the scene has become so fragmented I am struggling to see how you would attract sufficient interest short of just starting something completely new. Like in a student town or something. Think about it oldies, newies, 60s, 70s 90s, Y2K, fast, midtempo, crossover, Hammond, R&B (spit), mamsy pamsey, new indies, soulful House, Mod - all very varied. A very fragmented scene. I was reading that Wigan thread and frankly I have absolutely nothing in common whatsoever with the baggie trousered Wigan oldies brigade that bounce around a shoping centre whirling round and clapping their hands in unison to "One wonderful moment". If my friends saw that on Youtube and said "Isn't that what you like?" my answer would be a firm "No way". Certainly the revivalists on the northern scene are in a large majority and as I have said before the number of people that would class themselves as being on the northern scene that actually WANT to hear new tunes is the minority - and that's just 60s new tunes we are talking about. Move the musical time machine forward a decade and a whole load more fall off of the wagon (ooh that's "modern / funk"). Slow the tempo down below 99 mph and more still drop off the bandwagon and use words like "midtempo dirge" etc. Play "It's available" tunes and the rare soul boys lose interest. Play rare tunes and the "It's available" boys get squiffy. That underlying resistance that dominates the northern scene to hear new music reflects the wider community as I have said before. Very few 40s and 50s like anything other than what they liked as Teenagers. That's how Genesis can fill Twickenham with pot bellied middle agers. And yet on our scene monthly / quarterly allnighters at the Upfront venues do little more than wash their face in terms of attendees. I really fear for the rare soul scene's long term well being. 800 people go to a shopping centre to hear Russ play bootlegs and the Flirts mash their way through "Little Darling" and we're lucky if 300 turn up at an upfront venue. The way it is going you would be forced to ask what will it be like in 10 years time without a serious injection of new bloods onto the northern scene? For comparisoon look no farther than the R&R scene - now confined to their "oldies" and a dwindling number attending fewer and fewer weekend "extravaganzas". I got into soul music cos it was cool, bucked the trend, was different, underground - and now looking at what the northern scene is becoming it's the opposite of all of those things. It does call for a fresh approach, but there is no easy answer. Let's be brutal - hardly any youngsters (I know there are a few) are going to be attracted to a scene where the majority of punters are old enough to be their Grand-dads are they. It's just not cool. Musically plenty have tried a 'fresh approach', but they never succeed. I do quite like "OF" for Original Format.

Agree it is a classic