Steve G

Hi Drew, with a record like this.....it either plays without noise and jumps, or it doesn't. Records can be very risiliant - one rarity I got from Sam has been through at least 5-6 hands and been played regularly for years by it's various owners, and yet despite that still looks and sounds great.

I actually have sympathy with John on this....you know Martin the amount of people in the US that claim to have had this and that - a lot of it is just hype and BS at the end of the day. Don't know "Pops", but have seen so many of our special friends in the US used record industry and heard their claims to fame over the years. I think if someone had a third copy for years we'd have heard about it somehow - however shy and retiring they are. Still a fascinating read, and an auction we'll be watching with interest - even for those of us who don't personally want the record. That being said, I can think of at least one Motown fan in London who'd probably be bidding on this.

But for Ron Murphy's account (thank's Ian) I would have to agree with the view that suggests that a higher number were probably pressed with all the artwork etc. that went into them. For comparrison If you think back to that thing on Lime (same backing as Jones Brothers but name eludes me right now) that came out on a UA test pressing - they did 10 and they didn't put all the credits on - just a UA logo etc.and minimal detail. Having said that I think on the balance of probability that multiple copies were pressed, Berry probably had his "chat" with Frank, and then nearly all copies were "destroyed" before they got out - it won't be the first time that type of thing has happened. So Ron has cleared up what we would expect to normally happen I guess I agree highly unlikely further copies will surface everyone has been after this for 30 years including all those Motown collectors with their inside "contacts" etc.so it is an ultimate rarity. All that being said there are records higher up my wants list

Supposedly Leon Ware on Gordy though I have never even seen a copy on the man who claimed he had it claims he sold it to someone, who claims he didn't sell it - so probably some bullsh*t....

I don't have the technology to post clips. It's pretty hard - probably expect to pay up to £400 if you see an issue for sale.

great version but when was it recorded 1969/ 1970 when Lou Pride was or late 70s? I remember ordering my copy from Mr Manship for about £1.50 or whatever it was.....big floor filler at the time too.

It's the other side that is better mate. "Don't fan the flame" The demos don't have "Don't fan the flame" on.

dave F I have met the French guy you eluded to. Really nice chap, and yes he got loads of stuff, sent from his NY office when they got stuff sent to them. He won't have a FW, and also he is also aware of the prices of the stuff he does have.....Steve

There are a number of 1 and 2 known copy records - so on rarity value Frank WIlson isn't unique. But it is Motown and that counts for a lot, and yes it was stupid to sell Jim Gilstrap to Tim Brown when you could have sold it to me Ian

Nice record......fast and good.

About £70. Been a Yarmouth spin for both Mike Charlton and me, and possibly others too.

top crossover tune.

I would imagine Simon got Andy Dyson's copy.....Sam is raving about it. Can't say I'd remember seeing it before, but the grey cells aren't what they once were.....

Hi Simon Sams got another one by him - very rare indeed. "Silly kind of love" was the original in vogue side before it went a bit funky and then Lost came to the fore.

Well I could certainly give the Stax museum a complete run of their singles, which I don't think they have

I suspect there will come a time when I am carted off to a controlled access place for old fogies, and at that point they'll probably have to go. But by then I won't be interested in getting money for them. Would probably donate them to charity or something.

No bad but the condition is!!! Jees you can't even play it out like that.

Answer for me is simple. No because I love the music, and I love vinyl, and always will. To me they're records and tunes I cherish. Steve

Beats me Pete. Ebay is getting more like I-Offer every day.

Don't keep them in the sun Seriously prefer vinyl - styrene you can't really visually grade and the amount of M- stuff knocking about with needle burn and distortion makes it tricky when buying without hearing first. Also styrene cracks too easily in a packed record box . Styrene wansn't designed to be durable - 7" records were only designed to have a shelf life of a few weeks. DJ's DON'T BACK CUE YOUR RECORDS.

My views on Holly St James are well known. So I won't repeat them. Freddie Lowe £507 - wow!!!

What number is this one please?

That's the one "You must know magic" - pure quality.......had also forgotten about the mis spelt Wand as well. Cheers Steve

Hi Darryl It's actually the A side of that Musicor title that I prefer - I have it somewhere but cannot remember the title right now as I am not at home - nice mid tempo tune though (still think "Name it and claim it" is the best 45 though). Did you do anything else other than the Wand and Musicor sides and was there stuff you laid down that never got released? Names like Tony Camillo and Anthony Bonjiovi are household names amongst the soul fraternity...Anyway welcome to SouL Source. Steve

Craig took the stock from Soul Bowl. Soul Bowl had lots of copies as John bought up all the stock off of Spyro Gyra when they had their big hit on RCA in the 70s and never sold them all. It's actually the Spyro Gyra boys moonlighting