Steve G

Yes.

Well there were always rumours around royalties and whether they were actually paid on the releases.......but they were just that, rumours.....I don't know either way, but that rumour never went away.

While the auction is going on yes you can see who else is taking part and what the current bid is.

Yes it does say that, and I guess that also favours the seller doesn't it? It's like a sealed bids auction where the seller can pick the highest bidder or the second highest bidder. I actually like transparency.......

But no one is having a go at TB, just his auction site........

Well he doesn't scare me I stand by every word I have said "the process is about as transparent as a two foot thick brick wall...... " Perhaps they "select" the winners

Yes agree but there were more than 3 releases Glyn. I have got several others at home, including another one by Shedevil + a pic of them in very high cut leotards

Nope, the process is about as transparent as a two foot thick brick wall......

I agree these are not real. Steve

Hey Mr Man Onion, we never fell out.......just some friendly sparring.....between two war horses

But as a promotor of soul music are you going to answer Sebastian's question and post it up on refosoul so we can all hear it in it's full glory and enjoy it? Have a good weekend matey.......

Hey man, don't judge everyone by your own standards - the thought of you with a pint hanging out from your behind - no thanks!

OK OK man, no need to be so defensive of your position on this record Sean - only digging you out m8. Obviously struck a raw nerve though!!! :lol: I feel a drink fest coming on at Yarmouth (if you are still talking to me by then).....always worth remembering though I can dish out as good as I get Steve

So let me get this right Tats...... You go 50/50 on buying an expensive record, but you haven't seen it in over a year since, and aren't even allowed a copy of said record? Is it an investment or something? Isn't there some sort of sharing (i.e. you have it Jan-June) that could be arranged here? From where I am standing it's sounding like you are funding Sean's "excloosivs" collection

It has been a monster for a long time now agreed, but a member has asked about where they can get a copy.....that prompted debate on which version is best etc - so calm down Jocko Anyway why aren't you on the picket lines outside Fred Goodwin's house?

Some interesting points if you are what I would class a traditional soul fan. The music of the likes of James Carr, Bobby Bland etc, is really now confined to people's own record and CD collections with no interest whatsoever beyond. It's a tragic shame that 30 people turn up to see Lou Pride -especially as his repetoire is so much richer than "I'm comun home in the mornun". I remember when I first tracked him down in the 90s and interviewed him on radio, his only knowledge of the UK scene was that "I'm comun home" had been a "number one hit in the UK". Of course I had to disavow him of that belief straight away. How disappointed he must have been to see a crowd of....30. New soul music generally attracts low sales. There is the odd trend bucker, but not very often. I mean by definition a press of 500 of a new release means that it is destined to remain extremely obscure. Many of the 500 presses don't even sell out. The northern scene by contrast is a club based scene based around dancing and obscure records and has nothing to do with what goes on in the wider contemporary soul world. It always has been, however that too is fragmented into factions, some of which are positively struggling numbers wise. The oldies brigade, newies fans etc etc. It is wrong to lump northern in with the wider soul scene, as the two are totally divorced from each other. As for the Dells at Hammersmith, I really don't think that would have worked. At Trentham, I was annoyed at the time when some of the people were getting openly bored when they were singing things like "Standing ovation". But why wouldn't people travel up the M6 to see such a fabulous group? I think if there was any chance of them filling the Hammy O Burton would have seized that opportunity. But I don't see it myself - London based soul fans - it's hard enough to get them to cross the road to go and see an act . I have seen this type of article before, it's all been said before, but it is sometimes worth taking a check as to where we are. The northern scene will continue to evolve for some years yet (unfortunately for me it seems to be ever increasingly oldies based with in too many cases lowering standards - but that's my opinion). But I think you have to carve out the northern scene from the rest of your article, simply because northern is not linked to mainstream soul.

I am thinking of the 12 with "Put something down on it" (another fine track) on the flip from last autumn. Not got it in the office so I can't remember which "mix" it is.......but Jo will hear it tomorrow in the car.....

Nice one Bob.

You reckon Cunnie? Interesting I dug my copy out the other day and it didn't sound as good as I remembered it......might have to give it a second chance..... Steve

......and some people were in a car but it wasn't going anywhere

Now this I do agree with - quality over rarity every time. There's good rare records and good cheapos - always try and feature a bit of both and agree that some don't seem able to. Same thing with "beat", see some jiving about to horrid stuff and bigging up of DJ's that play it just because it's very fast. Now we're motoring!!

Hello Simon and thank you for your contribution. I guess the difference is I have just about every £5 soul 45 that there is - a few I don't have I know that, but pretty much the exception these days. Hence I am cherry picking the more elusive stuff when it turns up - but only the ones I personally like. And that has meant a couple of deals at Motorway services that is true. Have gone off that southern soul cheap production CD type of thing a bit I must admit. It may come back, but for the moment not for me, more in the soulful house bag when it comes to contemporary - but tastes change as we grow older eh?

Hello Mark, The Marc Evans is a better version of the song IMHO. Goes down a storm down this way. Steve

Jees, wasn't aware that was going on . You have my sympathy.

he he, where is that picture of a fish on a hook? OK we're veering way off course here, but....... If we're being honest it could equally be argued that people who insist on playing reissues in their sets play them not to promote soul music and garner sales, but simply because they don't have the originals!!! SOmeone on here (now who was that Sean?) said they don't tend to play recent reisues like Natural Impulse - why on earth not if it is all about promoting the music and encouraging sales? Surely plays for something like that would be genuinly promoting soul music? I'd have no qualms about continuing to play Nat Imp at the right venue at the right time. Of course it all gets very messy when collectors are accused of "having egos" and "elitism" which are words too easily banded about these days. It cuts just as well with DJs having "excloosivs" in their box - and don't tell me you don't aspire to that Sean - I won't believe you until my copy of your Womack acetate turns up in me postbox so that I to can "promote" that particular piece of soul music to the hungry masses. Or failing that how about a copy for por old Tats who co-owns it possibly?