Steve G

1976/77 I was in the 6th form at school (snob ).....Tescos financed trips to Wigan, girlfriends, clothes and records.........so no chance of the Salvadores, I was buying the 50p stuff. Most expensive one I got was on my first night at wigan Sam & Kitty for £4. Only years later found out it was an early fcuking bootleg!!!

Hey Ian then I was still in schol and earning £7 a week at Tescos. So the Salvadors would have been nearly 3 weeks wages. Steve

Yup I think he has "issues" with certain promotors of certain soul nights . But our D'Arcy tends to like the really fast stuff too. And I did talk to Chadwick at Leeds - one of Pat Brady's niters at the Griffin - that's how I know about Bobby Womack, Sam Dees etc - you could see the eyes glaze over with complete dis-interest when the names came up.... Yes I agree a few emis have always been played, can't deny that. And who knows maybe Russ played some of the bootlegs he was selling - that damn stage was so high I couldn't be bothered to climb up there too often. Maybe we should move off OVO then and DJs, other snobbish elements? - decent beer, comfy surroundings, good sound system, good dancefloor, all traits of the "soul snob"?

Yes I actually agree with you there Rod, Chadwick was the classic case of a trophy hunter, who JUST needed to have a box of rare records. Don't think he'd even heard of Bobby Womack or Sam Dees or Bettye Swann, and yet he got booking after booking on the Northern scene because of his box of "Trophy records". £250,000 sure can buy you a collection, but people like Chadwick don't make up the majority of todays DJ's do they?. Surely serious DJ's must have a balanced and broad based collection which encompasses both rare and not so rare (and more than one beat/ style). Serious DJs take years to build their collections, there is no instant fix - Levine tried it in the late 90s hoovering up everything in sight, and it didn't really work for him and he sold them all off again. The reality is as Terry says - far to many wannabe DJ's who don't have the goods and hide behind excuses like "the punters don't care", or "It's only a few mixed in with a few originals" etc etc. I won't even bother going to a place where I know that boots will be played, even if it's just up the road. Did the DJs at Wigan or Stafford play boots? I don't think so! So what makes it right now? At least in Herts and Beds we still have some soul night venues that stick to the principles of playing northern without resorting to bootlegs. And hey Ian - £20 for the Salvadores in the 70's - I couldn't have afforded that if I wanted it. It was never any more "available" to the ordinary guys on 7/6d a week than it is now, although that 3k price tag does seem extreme - more trophy hunters I guess.

My theory is that the "Presents" copy was actually a second issue which was given out at a local music fair in the park to try and reactivate the intetrest in the record. 2nd Ressurection were on the bill supporting a host of Budweiser sponsored acts, and this 45 was designed to be given away to their fans.......... Nah I made that up, but it is plausible

Hi Sean, I am trying to think of a northern venue I have been to recently that HASN'T played Mel Britt . Seriously it's everywhere you go. My copy is now cracked so I couldn't play it if I wanted to.....which is a shame because I genuinly like the record. I haven't set about replacing it either - because I don't want a boot, and I don't want to join the clamour of trophy hunters all trying to outdo each other for the next available needle burnt copy. As I say (and as I think you agree) there are plenty more records out there. And I don't think it all has to be rare either, for example I've heard Chalky play some great £5-£10 records at Northern nights and at Blue Skies we play a number of cheap and cheerful 'greats' like Chuck Bernard doing his David Ruffin impression - the best £7 any aspiring DJ could ever spend. Steve

Will have to dig this out,. FOund it for 50p in Harlequin Liverpool St in about 1981....it's been in the lock up ever since. Didn't they also have an album on Roulette>???

And that's the point Russ, wannabe DJs trying to justify themselves for playing CDs and boots. They don't know the crack, and as Terry says two pages back, it's the easy option. My aunty has been invited to DJ at a local northern night in Thornton Heath. She doesn't have any originals, and so she's going to buy some bootlegs and CD dancefloor filler tracks to play because "that's what the punters want". But she IS a DJ and if you say she isn't you're a soul snob - yeah right!!!! The Rare soul scene is built on playing originals. If you don't have the trophy records like Mel Britt, play some different ones! There's 40,000 + originals to choose from......

Yes Andy too much "Mia culpa" here mate. Blue Skies is NOT advertised as OVO, and in fact some of the guys do play reissues. SO not sure why you have "volunteered" for such a public "admission" Andy for that Doni Burdick record - I wasn't laughing, just merry and sharing a joke with Paul McKay - blame the Fosters. Steve

Nah they probably pressed some more up, but never sold them or something. I'd be surprised if someone bothered to boot it Brett.

Yeah very odd.

Again if you flip it over you should find "Don't bring back memories" which is a great dancer. That's two B sides you have listed, have you opened the box the wrong way round fella?

In fairness Ian says it's an "across the board" soul pack. What exactly were you expecting to find in there? The Twans? PS: William Stuckley if it has "Girl I got you on the run" on the flip - great 90s.

Never came out as far as anyone knows.

They've used OWAN on their sponsored programmes for a while now.,......good spot though, it flew past me.....

It's a Mercury acetate. Steve

To be candid with you Barry, this is just OVO versus Non OVO Version 14. It's all been done to death before, and there will never be agreement on it. That is why most of the posts are light hearted "banter".

I only have it on an acetate. From memory it's listed as coming out but haven't seen one....

Bobby goldsboro indeed.......it was a 70s thing Rod......If you want to know what's wrong with sellotape you should see my old colpy of "Whiskey talking" the label is seriously burgered at this point where Soul Sam whoever had it covered used the wrong type of tape........anyway thanks for the support.

Hey Rod want to keep this in perspective since my name is featuring - the only carvers I have are acetates, the originals of which I am definately NOT playing out on most promotors crappy equipment (my choice and those that don't like it can get over themselves ), and 2 old cover ups which I had burnt onto a 7" carver, one of which is no longer a cover up.....really done to give me some exclusivity on a couple of expensive tunes and to keep the wolves at bay for a while (I couldn't be bothered with paper and sellotape Other than that it's OVO for northern and CDs of new releases all the way from me.

Hooorray - you get it!

great 60s soul....not a stomper but good 60s dance - will play it at Yarmuff if you're going.

Oh goodness....loads of em

No Marc, Tommy Tate on ABC and KoKo.....Steve