Steve G

It's been going through something of a revival recently....

TK in the US were often 45.

Not really Col - many a DJ has been caught out with a "Pinky & Perky" BTW haven't seen you out and about lately?

think the answer was that when 12s came out there was no rule, like LPs are 33, and 7s and 45. With a 12 this rule didn't apply and some treated them like an album, others like a 45. I don't theink the answer is anything more elaborate than that.

It's white isn't it.....like a 60s garage band. Not my bag either.

This would have been from their buddah period when they were child stars I guess,,,,,,,,preferred them when they grew up into proper singers .....Steve

Yeah interesting I played the 2009 version of this at a 60s night (just being a rebel in charge of the decks ), and quite a lot of people danced to it. Classic tune. One of the worst Wigan moments for me was hearing The Seeds "Pushing too hard". If I could have got a refund on me train ticket that night I would have. Heart of Soul indeed! But then again I have always hated the pop and always thought it was the lazy DJs that had to resort to it because they didn't have decent records to play. But people on this thread shouldn't be surprised that chart stuff crossed over or that contemporary stuff was played on the scene. You have to put these things in context. The northern scene always played new releases back in the day, and the very oldest records were only ten - fifteen years old. Many were less than ten years old. So a Motown 66 record played in 77 was 11 years old. Phillip Mitchell and things like that weren't far off being new releases when they were first played. The equivelent today would be a scene where the very oldest record played was from 1998 and the majority of the playlist was from Y2K. In that context it makes perfect sense that the northern scene embraced some of the better new releases. I remember the Flaming Emeralds played as a new release and being massive and also Flame N king, Ronnie Love, Anthony White and Eddie Holman (Salsoul), and of course Carol Anderson a couple of years later. Any one of those could have got into the charts with the right distribution and a bit of luck (such as a feature on a radio station or a bit of a push from the Mob). And this was long before the first officially recognised 'onslaught' of modern in 1979/80 (when Richard got the new releases from Soul Bowl - Wil Collins, Pages, Roy Dawson, Larry Houston etc.). So why do people seem to be surprised at what got played at Wigan etc? The scene was never just been an endless stomperfest and think that some people might not realise that.

Yeah that and Nat T Jones another one that was botlegged before it took off. Strangled at birth. Perhaps some of the DJ's WERE the bootleggers Sean Oliver in Northern rooms - whatever next? Whenever I used to play that, it was off of the CD, but again it was a legitimate new release - don't think anyone's talking about true modun here though - more 60s-mid 70s 45s stuff. Anyway I am not going to get drawn in - honest

Wow! Yeah a lot of stuff ended in in M/c. Went to the record fairs there religiously in the early 90s - got some great stuff myself....Steve

Well they don't have to go out at all - just put some beers in the fridge and put a CD on, and dance on their carpet to all the favourite oldies Yeah no need for the oldies only fans to ever leave home again.....

What years was it on? Trying to bget a perspective on time. Cheap 45s, Richard guesting at easter etc. are we talking the 70s?

Yes they were superb labels weren't they.....still amazed how many "steppers" don't know Jocelyn Brown on Posse.....before her voice 'broke'...Steve

Hmmm haven't heard this for years despite having my own copy . Quite a hard to find LP which I think is under-rated.

No. Why would any self respecting DJ need to play boots? If you canne' stand the heat, get out the kitchen.

Yes it was played. Quite big too.....

Surprised no one has mentioned "Casanova" yet by Coffee

You are not getting it Bryney SNOB = Same Northern Oldies B*ll*cks. Petrhaps we're not the snobs after all

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Is it Gasher again putting the decimal point in the wrong place?

Hi Steve as he is local to you, do you know him? Sounds a very odd story. Steve

Yes Bob cracking northern.

Yeah but we've rolled the debate on from 'chavs' v 'snobs' now.....

A well known dealer friend of mine went to a scooter rally with a stack of original records, sold two all weekend (and I think one of those was 'sent back' for a refund on the following Monday).

Yes very cool, I remember thinking that when I first saw the interview. We should also remember that for every ten decent guys/gals who made a record there are a few 'nasties' out there in soulville. Hustlers who want x$ for having a photo taken with them, who are just on the milk and honey treadmill. Think some soul fans are incredible naive and wear the rose tinted glasses when it comes to the 'ins and outs' of the music biz. It certainly wasn't the case that all singers are poor and were ripped off, far from it. Many were paid for the session, and forsake any future rights to royalties etc. Here's $50 for two hours and four tracks, thanks and goodbye. One of the great things about the scene though is finding a genuine guy - like the late Cal Thomas of the TSU Toronadoes. Genuinly appreciated that people liked his groups music, but wasn't phased about it, didn't want paying for an interview, happy to donate a copy of one of his records "Please heart don't break" for a competition - a cool guy.

Had a pop at this on ebay yesterday, but didn't win it. Anyone else know it? Blue eyed but rhythmically good.....