Steve G

A piece of local news about some school kids learning about northern soul as it was in the 70s. Fine, can't get excited about it, except to say when I was at school it was all Tudors and Stuarts. Good on the kids,I am sure some of their grandparents actually went to the Casino.

Yup all the cash in the world and I don't believe you'll get it.....unless someone has an acetate or something. Steve

aything that can be done with a styrene job that has distortion on it?

Sure is. Happy birthday to your good lady.

Lets put the cat amongst the pidgeons then... Leon bRYANT "Mighty body (Hotsy Totsy)". Casanova "Coffee" Leon Petersen "Don't squeeze the sherm" Cats Eyes "Life" Sammy Davis Jr "Take a chance on me" Ral Donner "Don't let it slip away" Prince Buster Isaac Hayes Connection "Disco connection"

Great guy. Still alive and well in deepest Nawfawk. Catching up over a beer or three at Gt Yarmouth...

Bargain price Dave....and as for the Scott 3 - Steve you need to add that to your list.....Steve

You having a larf surely mate? Description "G" G. Good . The lowest grade we sell. Heavily used record with audible scratches. the record can even jump. There are minty copies about, but admitedly most people that have it won't sell it. As a record it still hasn't had it's day.

AGree with my learned colleagues who say if pitching enhances the daceability then do it. I have one 60s record I pitch at +6 and it sounds great out. Don't pitch if it makes the vocal sound like a Pinky & perky track....

A rare one - a bearded Ady Croasdell And Clarkie at West Hampstead.....in the communal toilet kitchen

Noticing the "Casino Classics" moniker, you don't suppose our "friend" in Wigan could somehow be involved do you???? Perhaps he's on lead vocals???

Fair enough Paul, but 95% of the songs dealt with relationships rather than living in a sh*t hole of an estate didn't they. Soul did have a big following in the early 70's but it was really northern that I was talking about; to us that was always much more underground. I wasn't really thinking of the Freda Paynes etc. which were played on radio, was thinking more about the Eddie Fosters / Yvonne Bakers - which were never in the mainstream. Reminds me of a funny story Sam told me about his residency in Wrexham in the 70s. 100% Motown, soul, and dare I say it a bit of northern (Donnie Elbert style I am sure ). Anyway Peter Powell turns up as part of the R1 roadshow and says to Sam "I am goig to start of with some Quo". Sam tells him "No you're not, you'll get lynched if you play anything like that here". Thereafter Sam spent the entire time Powell was on pulling the tunes out for Powell to play.

Just don't buy that> Wigan membership 100,000 and everyone into the scene went there over 8 years + tens of thousands of "tourists" as well. Maybe in 75 it went overground for a few weeks when Footsee and all that was in the charts and it crossed over, but for the rest of the time NS has been an underground pursuit, far from the madding crowd. Yes do agree some played in youth clubs as well.

So tongue in cheek, and a good wind up......but just in case anyone takes this load of old rubbish seriously........and knowing how the internet is so widely used for "research" these days......I wouldn't want the NS history to be totally rewritten off of the back of the above....... The south has had plenty of people into soul music, and in the 60s and 70s too. For what it is worth outposts from all over the UK 'popped' up to Wigan and as for Yate, last time I looked it would broadly be classed as 'the south' and supported a highly succesfully fortnightly allnighter for years. Back in those days before wannabe intellectuals tried to categorise everything (apart from Tony Cummings who was at it even then with his Black Music analyses ) it was fair to say the most people got into northern soul because it was away from the mainstream. It was not what the BBC was playing at us, it was underground, non conformist and yet had a sense of togetherness, and you had to seek it out to find it. "Class" wasn't really a major factor - the point was on the dancefloor the background of the person next to you didn't matter. In fact in the SE reggae probably had as big a following as soul amongst the working class council estates where I lived, and amongst the soul fraternity, soul also meant things like James Brown, Ohio Players, Whispers etc. more than it ever meant Frank Wilson. Also popular on the council estates in the SE were Slade, Quo, Mud, Alvin Stardust; yes Chorleysoul all favourites amongst the "working class" girls I used to date. So I think at best where you live or how you were brought up has only a slight bearing, if any, on you getting into soul music. Though it's very concvenient for us to all tag ourselves as repressed working class kids who related to Al Williams "I am nothing", the more plausible reason was because at the time it was a fashionable underground scene, with smart clothes, obscure music, and sense of belonging. As for Ian's question, yup we are always celebrating success, just look at the Lifeline events lookback thread. Where we tend to moan is when we hear people harping on endlessly about yesterday's successes, like some old semi senile grandparent reliving past glories of a generation ago - it's like a stuck record.

blimee, I always thought it was a woman singing!!!!!

Until next time then

Mark I think you have to be a bit more honest about this.........Russ is a one man publicity machine that keeps talking about WC and nothing else. The rest of us don't, unless Russ is promoting some candle lit vigil up Station Road or an allnighter in a station waiting room or whatever, when we all get dragged in to discussing it. Sure it was an important part in the scene's history we all know that, but everyone else has moved on. Everyone. Russ is like someone who has never been able to overcome his grieiving at the passing of the Casino. And let's face it if he was interested in soul music he could have tried to have a life on the scene post Wigan. I mean he could have attended venues ,or carved out a living as a part time DJ - gone to Soul Bowl, Manship, Raistrick, Brady, Butch etc. and tried to get some decent original records to play - couldn't he? Really? Right, I am off for some dancing lessons, I feel I need them; I may be gone sometime

Nice one. Oliver Cheatham on the right right?

Gonna get one of these for the car

Glad it's popular now as it is a good sound. Still remember the days when you couldn't give it a way. Steve

Yup fair point, a lot of them aren't played at all anymore.

Hey maybe some dancing lessons then?

Some great posts on here. What does it all mean? Really there are at least two very different scenes that like similar music and dance the same. And it's as simple as that. The dominant one in terms of numbers is oldies based and is relatively commerical these days and has little to do with the aspirations of an underground music scene as say existed in the days of The Wheel, 70s etc. Retro clothes / Baggie trousers, beer towels, Top 500, Frank Wilson and Sandi Sheldon, Wigan revivals, patches and varying levels of memorabilia from the mildly puzzling to the downright offensive. The members of this scene are trying to relive something that existed decades ago. Then a much smaller scene in terms of numbers that also likes some oldies, but also likes to hear different music too. No fashion beyond casual, little / no memoribilia. Very much not trying to relive the memories of the past. Both scenes are broadly friendly, and clearly there is a degree of crossover between the two, but let's just be honest and recognise there are two different scenes here with a completely different outlook.

Come off it James. The only difference is then it was Trickster and he's a mate. Now it's someone you don't know and it lacks integrity and is "cheesy"? The only difference is that Binstanley has hitched his caravan to this woman's site. More fool her for letting him. I personally don't get this "NS dancing classes thing" whether its Trickster, this woman or old Windbag-Stanley himself doing the back flips. As others have said it doesn't really matter how you dance when you feel the music, but I guess if people want to cut the mustard on the dancefloor and pay good money to do that, then thats their choice. But in the scheme of things it's at best a minor curiosity when there is so much completely OTT garbage floating around branded "NS". Hopefully now everyone accepts that trying to pretend NS is some sort of glorious underground phenonemon is a lost cause. Long live "rare soul".

good northern and a legit 45