Steve G

It's amazing how the internet has opened things up. For so long so rare and then three come along in a few months. Same with Lester Tipton...I am already on record as saying I don't like it, but I do accept it has "All nighter appeal".

Hey Terry, pop your head round the door at Soul Essence - there you'll find everyone dancing until 5 a.m. rammed dancefloor and when the last record gets to fade everyone cheers and chants "one more one more". Now that's crossover.

I bloody hope not. What next Roger Miller "King of the Road" ???

We pulled a load of stuff out of there too, Stateside demos etc. As did Clarkie, and a host of others. The most`amazing record event ever. I wrote about the day in Blackbeat Issue 2 i believe, althought it's off topic I'll see if I can find it......

Hi Taff, Deffo not Blackbeat - we couldn't get The Wid to write for us Think it was either Shades of Soul or Soul Cargo?

The term crossover describes records that were between northern and funk tempo wise- slower than trad northern and yet faster than the funk of groups like Ohio Players, Funkadelic etc.....music made in that wonderful late 60s / early 70s period as others have said.

Agreed, played at Yarmouth. Someone bite his arm off for this great double sider!

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Lets be honest here, there was a wide variety of "sorts" that pitched up at WIgan on a typical saturday night in the 70s. there were the locals out for a good time, the 'dealers', Anna Ford and the Granada crowd according to Russ's book, first timers, tourists, kids, older kids, die hard soul fans. Lets not kid ourselves that Wigan was just full of died in the wool principled rare soul fans. Think Dewhirst's post about playing "Hawaii 5-0" and the kids loving it or whatever he said bears testament to that. It wasn't perfect so lets not try and pretend it was. Majority were soul fans obviously but there were some others there too for the ride. ............... And Jim Barry

On that basis no one would ever make a film about anything..... No one would ever paint a picture....... No one would put on a play........ No one would make a record....... Steve

Hi Simon, Well I think it is good that the directors are trying to get it as right as they can. But it's still a film at the end of the day and they shouldn't get too hung up about the wide variety of opinion on here. Re CTC is specifically featured a soul club in Liverpool, and two soul music DJs who loved their records, basically on the run from everyone so far more than just a Tamla soundtrack really. You should try and track down a copy it's very good, and there's a good actress in it too Steve

Yes made in 85 shown in 86. It was a 90 minute film. It was a road movie essentially but eminently watchable and very enjoyable. But that's my point, it started off with a club called the Sink club in Liverpol and it bore no resemblance to any clubs I've ever seen or a scene that I recognised. And despite that it still made for a really good film. So let's not condemn this new film because the holdalls aren't real 70s ones, or the filmmakers didn't rebuild a complete replica of the Wigan Casino on the back lot at Elstree Studios. Let's wait and see what it's like and judge it as a film, not as a historical reincarnation of how NS was in the 70s.

Exactly the same for me Pete. No older brothers at the Casino to advise me, or seniors at school with the proper stuff, I litetrally stumbled into northern from mainstream soul via this stuff. Mind you I soon realised it was naff end (not Wade in the water). back to the theme - this is a film - it'll either be a good story and watchable or not. Can't believe the hysteria on here about "preserving" NS's reputation when the web is full of Northern soul branded "tat" from clocks and watches to ladies underwear and donkey jackets. Steve

Yes absolutely right. Didn't see it as commercialisation back then. More like wow! Terrible to admit to now, but as kids thats how it was.

An excellent perspective on Quadrophenia. I remember seeing it as a new release and thinking "this ain't right". But it was just a film, entertaining or not entertaining. I could watch it again, knowing that it bears little resemblance to what actually went on. "Carry on Brighton...the musical" :no:

Well I understyand the sentiment Simon, but the reality is it is a film - and with a film it is never going to be a totally factually accurate representation. Just be thankful it's not being produced in Hollywood with Mel Gibson playing the part of the hero Russ Winstanley pitched against Sam Mendes as the villian playing Ricardo Searlingi. From what I've seen is just about some yoofs in the 70s with a back-cloth of northern soul and chasing "birds" around - nothing wrong with that as a plot - it's not attempting to be a factual reincarnation of the Casino. It's just a film, it'll either be good, watchable, entertaining or it won't. I am not convinced people will see something set in the 70s as being "what NS is all about" today - they don't look at Miss Marple and think that's how people are today do they? There's more risk of them being mistaken about the scene today if they stumble into a Wigan shopping centre......when the annual pantomine is on. Doubt many new bloods will get into NS off the back of this either - if my kids are anything to go by they'll ask "Is that what it was like back then Dad? Ha Ha Ha". But yes we need to get new people into the scene, how? Well that's a different thread..........

It's obviously an old American expression, and yes think Godin used it first on the soul scene......

Nice tune there Brett, never really had it's day. Other side is great too.

Hi Steve - are you happier now? : Steve

From Philly I think but she is a mystery artist......Steve

There's some good tracks on that album, I had the Margo Michaels cut onto a 7. Only problem is it's not long enough......would have liked an extended version......where's Neil Rushton when you need him?

Geoff have pmd ya

Perhaps the bidders thought they were bidding on a 45

first two I am pretty certain - no. fourth one no.