Steve G

JJ, Don't know if you are just trying to be provocative or teasing.....Anyway you know full well that the PRS do not track down some ailing artist in Compton and give him 5c every time his / her record is played at a northern venue. The money they raise through playlists goes to the Top 40 artists like Lily Alan and Lady Gaga, producers, writers and copyright owners. And who says the artist is entitled to anything anyway? Most were paid a flat fee for recording and many at the obscurer end didn't even know their music came out. If anyone is losing out it is invariably the copyright owner, if such can be traced. Let's not try and pretend the record biz in the USA is anything other than deeply murky and full of con artists, and always has been. Might be an idea for the purists to list out some artists who have lost out financially as a result of cover ups, rather than all this hypothetical speculation. Then compile a list of artists who have lost out as a result of bootlegging, then decide where to aim your bricks and stones!

Strewth! This was done in 2005 ish from memory. As others say nothing like the orignal.

After an absence of over 10 years, here is my Downbeat playlist from Saturday. Thanks to Bri & Co for having us guest.....loved playing some tunes that I never get a chance to play elsewhere, anywhere.....Steve Herman Kelly "Let's get together" (RCA) D J Rogers "It's all over" (Shelter) Ed Robinson "Ivory" (Atco) Peggy Scott "Nobody's gonna love your Mama" (Atco) Jimmy Church "Shadow of another mans love" (Peachtree) Means of Persuasion "One way street" (C&J) Jeter Davis "Where ever you are"(Sun Belt) Harvey Scales "Welcome home" (Magic Touch) Rhythm Machine "Whatcha gonna do" (Rodan) Skeeter Campbell "All this love that I'm giving" (Audiotronics) Small Society feat William Bollinger "Just loving you" (Cadde) Sy Hightower "I've been thinkin" (Unissued) Soul 3 "Perfect Love" (Mercury Sound) Sam Dees "I found love in my own backyard" (Chess unissued) Floyd Beck "Ready for Heartbreak" (Atlantic) Jokers Wylde "Very special love" (Gold Spill) John Edwards "Loneliest house on the street" (Aware unissued) Jewel Bass "All good things must come to an end" (Malaco)

Yes an elongated version of Welcome Home....Fabulous.....

...and that's the point I was trying to make; you have put it much better than I could. Also with a cover up the DJ actually "breaks" something new rather than another spin of the wheel for the Mel Britt-ometer. If you had invested the time and effort in doing all that, then why not get something back for your effort. In fairness Adam, I think this is always something that is challenged outside of rare soul circles.

AGreed

Yes a number especially on the 70s / 80s front......

Russ, We are not disagreeing on cover ups, I was just saying that DJs do it for their own purposes and let's not pretend otherwise. Personally I do not feel any guilt about doing it. But in fact cover ups sometimes has the opposite effect. I can think of examples where someone rushes up and asks what something is - it's a real title - they go away thinking they'll look for that / onto the wants list / google /ebay / chat to mates do they know it? etc. Tell em it's a cover up and they walk away dissapointed and dis-interested. I have seen that happen as well. Anyway long live the cover up!

As someone who has a few cover up's I say let's be honest about this. Cover ups are for the whim of the DJ. I don't buy all this "heightened public interest" malarky as soon as a record hits the decks with a paper label stuck on it. Crapola. Maybe in the 70s's that was the case, not really now. So at a local level why do I do it? - Purely selfish reasons, to keep exclusives (which I may have paid quite a lot for) for longer, and others like Uncle Sam etc. off of the scent. I also don't really buy this artist preservation stuff either - hardly any of the artists we're talking about have the records, and that's assuming that they are still both alive and friendly - two huge assumptions. Rare soul has always been about the cut and thrust of breaking new sounds and if a cover up gives a DJ more exclusivity on a sound, that's fine and part of it all. But at least be honest about the reasons for it - Russ I remember back when you first heard me play the Scott 3 out, you said you liked it, would it really have made any difference if it was covered up? A good record is a good record, sticky tape and paper or not. Mind you it is quite fun telling someone you know what their cover up is, and watching their face All part of a competitive boys and toys thing I guess!

I agree Marc, been around for ages. Flip is fabulous deep as well.....as Lotusland observes. When I collected the Magic Touch label both this and "Trying to Survive" came quite easily with a bit of searching - now the Tornadoes - that's a hard record!!!

Hi Roddy, I do have the album. "Come on in love" is the best dancer. In it's original acetate form it's actually excellent and worthy of spins. Darn it if they went and drowned out the percussion with strings on this album version .....from a time when Bazza was a poor struggling musician.....! "All in the run of a day" also got a UK release on President.

Great, will def try and make it. Is the time 12-4? Might be a bit of a rush round.....

I'd come as a punter subject to other commitments, and probably bring a couple of southern softees up with me.....

Hi Pete the delta number will confirm if you have an original or a bootleg as above. Brother Dearglove despite his wealth of knowledge has been known to get these things wrong occasionally.......Ha ha!

Love it. I did interview Cal Thomas for radio some years ago (Soul 24-7) and he gave a GREAT insight into the group and their touring round Tx. I must dig that out and republish.

I have tried it to, cleared the floor ...real 100 mph stuff.

It was a classic case of "booted too soon" - played for 2 weeks at the Casino, then the boots appeared, then dropped like a hot potato. Never had it's day, I believe the work of Soussan and some of his puppet DJs. It's a great record, and yes the Wilshire version is a great version and really hard to find, as well as being a different mix.

Also a white demo on the orig with same matrix (80929). Steve

Yes as far as I know. First became aware of it via Soul Sam playing it either off of an acetate or a white label in the mid 90s....

Always loved this side since hearing Joey's version of it in the mid 90s. Great stuff and still to this day on my "wants list"

That's my understanding too Paul

Yes that is also how I remember him as well. He did Ms a bit too as I recall. PS: No one should ever underestimate the impact that "Jason King" has on early 70s fashion - as the before and after shots of Mike above clearly show. And that is a serious comment.....despite the smiley

Another excellent read Dave.

Yes I have heard the sound clip. Clearly to me a blue eyed singer with a moody r&B style backing.

Good for you Dave. Must admit "Bargains" and "Rosen" are not normally words I normally see in the same sentance First time I went there he rang the UK's most prominent rare soul DJ to make sure I was "Kosher" Only after the all clear was I allowed relatively free reign. All these stories are hilarious. I mean we are talking about records, there are loads of frigging records. Records come, records go. There are still always more records. The way some people behave you'd think the ones they had were the only records left in the world......