Steve G

Touche......Tin Tymes the better dancer, Howard the better soul record.....you pays your money and make's your choice Bearsy

I meant the one on Baltic which is Belgium I believe....hope all is well. Steve

Actually mentioning JT Rhythm, there is an absolutely FANTASTIC unissued version of this (not O C Tolbert) with great production......Just thought I'd throw that into the mix. Is Joey Irving the Belgium thing?

And that is in a round about way (without referencing deep soul) kind of my point about "dead music". It's not so much about Rock N Roll, as other forms of soul music - I guarantee you I could take a box full of Sharpees, Al TNT Braggs and probably a host of other good artists- all talented acts in their own right, and put them for sale at 10p at a gig. I probably wouldn't sell a single record, I wonder whether these acts have unwittingly become the soul music equivelent of Des O Connor records are at car boot fairs?.... I also share the view that the legacy of the Brit scene with all its politics, nostalgia, harping on about Wigan still etc. is a deterrant for younger folks, and at least partly why they have their own nights.

Good, well I hope you have sold it now......Steve

Jules, I think that is a fair call. But sometimes I wonder how deep the love really is versus it's a trendy bar playing different music.Mind you I guess the scene has always had it;s passing trade. Anyway I hope more youngsters discover some of the wonderful music that exists. It would be a real shame if the music died (as other popular music forms obstensively already have), with the generation that originally cherished it. Much of non northern soul music is already obstensively a dead music form now, so let's hope that the rest of it doesn't go the same way.

Wow, I'll get my copy insured.....

Ian I know you know there are "different types of funky records LOL". Am talking about a different dance craze, the records aren't a million miles apart so probably can probably be categorised as being from the same "genre". Steve

Hi Keith, it was a phone interview, will try and find it, although it is on minidisc (another "intermediate" media form for the thread "Will there still be records in 50 years" or whatever it's called ). Cal did send me a copy of "Please heart don't break" which we gave out as a prize on the show..... ATB Steve

Some of this is refreshing to hear indeed.

Hi Keith I did it on Soul 24-7 will have to upload the minidisc I have of it.....It's a good listen how they toured round from town to town etc and all about Skipper's Ovide label + their subsequent work.

I agree with Beeks, there are plenty of people willing to supply niche markets. Sony walkman's are an irrelevance now, who walks around their high street playing cassettes these days? . But as long as there is vinyl, there will be people willing to make turntables, albeit on a smaller scale. I can just see it on "The Apprentice" now.......

I keep hearing how in other parts of the world soul music is being appreciated by a younger crowd - whether it's Europe, USA, Australia, it's the same message coming through loud and clear. So why is it then, that in the country that was for so long the only real guardian of non hit soul music, aside from perhaps Japan, that there isn't a younger generation who are getting into that type of soul music here? Are we victims of our own legacy? Doe we have a scene that is seen to be populated by "old(er) timers" (and thus not trendy). A scene that is mired in politics and look backs to venues that shut their doors before these younger folk were even born? Or is it something else?

No Ian, Tighten up" was something different again. It also spurned a lot of answer and copy records. Did you listen to my interview with Cal Thomas (now passed) of the Toranados? You cannot lump all funky records together as starting from one record.......Tighten Up and Funky corners were dance crazes - different ones....

So presumably he'll be "reselling" the Flowers again but this time at a higher price?

"Funky 4 Corners" came first, then Funky 8, then Funky 16 etc. It was an early form of line or formation dancing I do believe

Strewth, never even heard of it.....must be rare then Does he make a habit of such things then?

Not a chance, just starting to take off again

Nothing else as far as I know but a cracking oldie, great harmonies.

Hi It's not something that would ever arise. Apart from some tailor made things (like Soul Fox Orchestra), pressings only ever really made of "in demand" originals. And in some cases the pressing actually killed the growth of the tune - e.g. Nat T jones "Moving forward", the greedy buggers pressed it before the originals had really taken off, making for a sound that was strangled just after it's birth and died on the vine. As I have already said plenty of other formats to play most things on - get a CD player or an MP3 and enjoy away.....

Very naive to think the singers always benefit from either original vinyl or legal reissues. Writers and producers may do however many smaller labels, and also many larger labels just gave a flat fee at time of recording - come in, lay the tracks down, here's $20, don't call us, we'll call you, bye bye. I've spoken to countless artists who never even knew their recordings even came out. Anyway not going to debate it all again Bearsy, people buy what they want to buy, whether that's an imitation watch or a pressing. V different from Djing with them as far as I am concerned. that said most stuff is now available on CD and download so better for 'em to buy 'em in that format but I am not going to get hung up about it.

Swear away Ian, but it's def a 12 LP size, and yes it does have Monarch on it and the titles typed out on the white cover. Incidentally I did buy off you when you sold up the first time, that little blue covered book of records, mind you couldn't afford any of the bigger titles you were selling which probably says it all....I probably still have it somewhere Steve

I'm mistaken confusing her with Mary Saxton :blush:

I think I've got an album by her, unless I am very much mistaken......I'll try and find it...

I've had it for years, probably 10 years now, and it is a 12" test pressing by the way, like one side of an album except the same six tracks are on both sides ( would love to hear the other side!!). Those that are trying to draw a parallel to modern soul not being hung up on originals, also don't get it - it's a completely different scene, mucho stuff only available on download or CD etc. so there is no "vinyl thang" unless it's a Joey Negro or DJ Meme 12" remix And the real modern scene has never had a focus on rare records anyway. Anyway glad we've all ended up agreeing - two scenes as we've all said. Now where's there a rare soul night?