Steve G

So my copy of the so called "2nd issue" came from Soul Bowl circa 1982 as I recall.

I am not convinced it is a second issue the gold one. I think the group or label did it as some form of sales gimmick. But I am not 100% certain.

Errr, what's the difference between a pressing and a re-pressing? I know someone that takes ironing in, I'll ask her.

I always liked Cracksteppin' "What are we going to do with this feeling" (LP track and 45). Vocal of "The Wind" I seem to recall...

Yes agree with you on Starvue Gareth.

Or it was an early "cover up"

Blomin'eck man, that took me back! Good old Tony trying to tell me the Vibrations "Shake it up" not two step :lol:

lpman, an interesting project. I've added a comment to one of the shops based on my recollection, but there are loads more I cannot remember the name of. I just knew they sold records. Also I have not looked at London yet, but are you going to include market stalls? There were some good ones scattered around and not just Cheapo Cheapo. Whitechapel road (an offshoot of Paul's I think), Dalston market etc

Win, I think they all define a moment in time. Fior example the sound at the Mecca changed dramatically, three times (60s, 70s, jazz/funk) Wigan 73 was different to Wigan 75 and different again to Wigan 80. Hope that makes sense. I don't think it limits anything, it's just how it is for a while.

Some nice examples of two step there Rod

For Tonbridge you can add: The Music Box, High Street open until about 77 The Music Room High Street, open until the 80s, and Rediffusion High Street open until the mid 70s when I think they stopped selling records.

OK guys, fair points. My view was based on what I saw in London in the late 80s, and yes I agreed with Keb's views, Dean. From my perspective I saw people raving about the overstocks that made their way to London. People raving over £2 Zodiac records that we'd already been through. So I kind of dismissed it. Whenever I spoke to someone on that scene I didn't get a feeling that they actually knew very much. Maybe it was because it was a younger scene. It's interesting though to hear the views of those that lived through it. Cheers, Steve

he may have been away I guess. For a week I'd probably let him have a refund if it was me. If it was a month, then that's a different matter.

Let's try and answer some of these questions...... Late 80s for two step Bob, yes there were clubs and people danced. To me rare groove is just £5 records that didn't get picked up by northern crossover of funk scenes I'm not really impressed with that, most of the people I've met on that scene don't really dig that deep. Maybe I am being a bit harsh here....but....I think Norman Jay MBE was a main player (he has a medal for his services to music). The term two step comes from the beat. There was a separate modern scene and a jazz funk scene. Jazz Funk was by far the larger scene and went well beyond London. Essex was really a mainstay area and it was also popular in a number of other areas such was the North west and throughout the south. Today it's all revival nights, same old tunes, like a northern soul Top 500 oldies night but with different music : There are six (seven?) of us left that like two step and no 'scene' so to speak : 45s and LPs? I think the format wasn't important it was the sound that mattered.

and 18 bids!!!......WTF

Ah, sorry about that.

I know . but there used to be loads of em around back in the day etc etc I'll get my coat!!

Bob, I repeat, if you need to make room in yer box for something like Jimmy Burns, ya need a bigger box....

Some good points here. I think the northern scene has always had it's share of people who are only interested in 'rarities'. Maybe this a by product of wanting to DJ and have the most 'elite' sounds? Since we mentioned him recently, I seem to remember discussing the finer points of Candi Staton's career once at Leeds with Steve Chadwick. It was a one way conversation that lasted all of 15 seconds because at the time apart from "Upper hand" he didn't know anything else she'd made. So we moved onto Bobby Womack, Bettye Swann etc. same reaction etc. I have been a label collector slightly ha ha, did loads of em, Veep, Loma, Minit, Toddling Town, SS7, Wand, Arctic, revilot etc. but those types of labels do have a high percentage of good records on them, and fewer turkeys. I've just been going through my Chess collection for a radio show, blimee some great stuff I'd forgotten about. Dunno whether half of them are £5 or £100 records, but that doesn't matter at the end of the day. What maters is 'cor this sounds good' So yeah collector first, and that's borne out by the fact that I have just discovered that I am inadvertently upgrading some of my single sided demos to issues with B sides Chalky is quite right when he says the vast majority of good records are within the budget of most collectors.

How odd, maybe he has the decimal point three points to the right......

Have we done this one yet? https://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-EDWARDS-ill-your-puppet-b-w-vanishing-love-AWARE-70s-/110814635051?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item19cd11242b#ht_1202wt_1135

Yes but Bob you have to hear it in a big high ceilinged hall.....

Kev sounding like he's having a whale of a time in the studio.

First time I've ever heard of someone moving on a JIMMY BURNS due to a lack of space. I mean you'd find space in your fridge or something like that wouldn't you?

The northern scene has always been dogged by trophy hunters though hasn't it. It's hardly a new phenomenon. Let's remember how angry a certain DJ was when Cecil Washington was uncovered ll those years ago.....