Steve G

The NY label was a pop label, and it was apparently created by Audio Fidelity Records according to Billboard at the time.

Fantastic to see Rob and the shop still going strong.

Hi JMSoul, not the same group at all. Jenny's Daughters were NY based.

The above isn't really right Roburt. Scepter merely picked up the one single which had already been recorded by the group off their own back with Luther Dixon. Alan Parsons saw them in France when they were supporting The Commodores. More details on this in the Scepter Wand book - time to buy a copy John .

Yes another good release.

Youtube??? You heathen Ady LOL. Is the Manhattan 3 CD out yet? 149 = 50129-1A 169 = 50129 - 1D

Just played 149 and 169....never noticed the difference in the final lyrics before. Nice.

A good read, thanks for posting.

I did a tribute to Tommy last night in Part 2 of my show....which you can find in the events section and on Mixcloud. Here's what I played: This Train (Juana LP track) Whats the matter (ABC single) Don’t play that role (As Tommy & The Derbys) I’m taking on pain (OKeh) Darling somethings got to give (As Tommy Yates Verve) Happy is the man (As Andy Chapman Atco) You’re movin’ much too fast Nightingales Stax Help me love (KoKo) More power to you (KoKo) I’m so satisfied (KoKo) We don’t (Juana) You taught me how to love If I gave you my heart I’m wrapped up (played 3 of the 5 singles on Sundance the other two not so good) Just a little overcome - The Nightingales If you got to love somebody (KoKo) - the single version. School of life. (KoKo)

Another legend gone.

Hello John, my copy is the same as above the multi coloured design. From memory I think I got it from Butch. ATB Steve

Yes thats the hardest one to find....

4 versions innit with different B side on some of em?

^ ^ ^ This. I got one of the originals on a red label as I recall. Is the above a legal reissue then?

Yes according to Soul Harmony singles book which dates the BRPs version as 1978.

Thank you for the positive feedback, makes it all worthwhile.

Anyway, John has been in touch......he didn't say Lee David was white in his review. So a storm in a tea cup of a thread about a record that is a piece of Gary Sherman brilliance.....ooh now Gary Sherman WAS white! Anyone fancy knocking his credentials? Here is the review""Not many things erck me within the joyous hobby of collecting Northern Soul 45s. But when puffed up self righteous collectors, label Northern Soul records as "Pop" base solely on the colour of their skin, previous or future recordings, it does kinda piss me off. For me and most other collectors not "blinkered" by the artist's name. Paul Anka's - I Can't Help Loving You - epitomises the Northern Soul sound, as does Charlie Rich's - Love Is After Me - a giant of The Memphis Sound, labeled "pop" because he had a pop hit in the 70s.. Let's thank the vinyl-Gods Lee David didn't have a "Pop-hit"... but if you delve passed the surface, you will see a common-denominators with all these stand out 60's Northern Soul dance tune. With Paul Anka & Lee David the great "Garry Sherman" is at the helm. Again proving it's not so much the singer but more a case of the guys in charge, who guide the artist to the sound they are seeking.. Jimmy Briggs sure guided Mr. David into the right direction on this NS Anthem, repeating his direction on the flipside too, huge potential for a surprise drop for the open-minded crowd. This NS Soul Classic listing, is a mere whisker off a Manship Mint!

Really? Not wishing to run JM down but I think he'll be the first to tell you his speciality is actually records. Being a successful trader means that you will have a lot of knowledge about soul music, but to say he is the most knowledgeable soul man you know implies you might just need to get out a bit more Steve :-) We've had this before. "Chuck Cocheram is white" from another very knowledgeable "soul man," which was hilarious, since he was a one time member of The Drifters (Chuck Cocherham not the knowledgeable soul man). I have seen no evidence to suggest what colour Lee David is and absent any photos to the contrary I would tend to rely on the explanation from coloredman, who knows his stuff. Those in doubt that actually have a copy of Temptation, rather than the internet chattering classes :-) (who'll no doubt be back on line to complain about the car crash when it sells for £1,347 or something), flip it over and ask again "Is this some honky dude?" Anyway that's not really the point. Temptation sounds and feels right etc. which is why it got played all those years ago. Contrast that to some of the obvious garage poor man's Beatles soundalikes that are about today. There is no doubt they ain't soul, weren't made for the soul market etc. Far from it. I am looking forward to seeing a picture of Lee David - someone must have one. Until then his ethnicity remains in tact.

A shameless plug for my book for all Ivories / Ivorys fans......

Cheers Louise. I thought for a moment there your hours on the ouija board had put you in contact with the spirit of Florence Greenberg or something Very sad lyrics they are.

Florence Greenberg sold the rights to Flo Mar in two tranches firstly in the mid 60s and after Marvin had left, the balance in the early 70s. Since then they've changed hands a number of times. The only viable lead I reckon would be Tom Dorsey.

Geoff the Buck Ram Platters was later early 70s I think and tied up to a show Buck Ram's version of The Platters were doing in Las Vegas.

Saturday nights towards the end were down to 350. It was coming to an end before the bulldozers. Whether it would have ever picked up again on a weekly basis, no one can say. Didn't everyone leave the scene and go off and get married or something? That is what I read somewhere.

I know where you are coming from Russ, but for me it was the Casino DJs inability (Richard aside) to source good new 60s uptempo soul records that led to the Friday nights, and of course they were very popular. All the Brit pop infiltrating the Saturday night playlists and of course Bobby Goldsboro x 3 just made it worse. These days I think its 50/50 ish attendee wise down here, mainly grandmas and grandads

The Record Bar, now that is a totally different question