Steve G

What's this doing in "Look at your box" Thought it should be in the "General fun and knockabout" section to be honest. Is someone going to post a rare Indonesian copy of Soft Cell singing "Tainted love" next?

Maybe comes back to the point about good records not getting picked up as tastes change.

Which brings us nicely onto David Rhodes "hung up in mid air" a Pye acetate I had to pay a fair bit for. Think there's 3 of them.

I think it didn't come out on Pye in 72 when it was issued in the US was because it wasn't a hit in the USA. The group didn't really become worthy in UK record label eyes until "Armed & Extremely dangerous" broke into the charts in 73. As for the LP well it was co-Nickel Shoe music production, so nothing to stop Stan putting it out on his PG label or re-leasing it, indeed the B side "One step away" came out on the B side of "Smarty pants" (PG in US / Bell in the UK of course).

Yes fair call Pete, until we see it or get clarification, it remains something of a mystery......

Yes and my theory (guesswork ) is that "Armed and Extremely dangerous" hit the charts and Pye thought "Oh we've got one by 1st Choice via our tie up with Scepter / Wand let's put it out"...makes some sense I think. Manship has a demo listed

Arrrggghhh!! No, That was Alan Felder and Stan Watson, some 6-8 months later, and btw although licensed through Scepter it came out on Wand. These guys were freelancing producers who were just getting songs done and then seeing who'd put them out, although Stan also had his label. Any more guesswork or is that it for today?

Sorry Ian this is not correct. The group (First Choice) came in via Georgie Woods. "This is the house" was their first record, and Norman Harris and Stan Watson worked on it. It was a Norman and Stan production and they would have leased it to Scepter as a one record deal. Stan then "weedled" the group away to his Philly Groove label and then they had their hits. Wand / Scepter stuff was licensed through Pye at the time (1972) not Bell.

Number allocated by Pye - 25613

Yes it was Ian and it may have even got a Pye number too (sorry my books are not with me but I have a niggling thought it did). Pete Widd was the first one I know to get onto it, and that maybe the copy Mick has. I'll ask him if I see him at Cleethorpes.

Ian Dewhirst on here is involved with it I believe. He'll be able to help I am sure.

It is "This is the house" but I was always led to believe that it was a Pye test pressing.

Is First Choice a test pressing? I won a few crates of old James Hamilton's 45s in an auction some years ago after he died, there is some weird 70s/80s stuff in there you don't see at all. I'll find some time to sort through em. Basically nearly everyone sent him their records.

Thanks Pete, I know they pressed them up, just don't think they sent them out much, which prob. explains rarity.

Sorry Wayne, but I found Mike from St Albans to be a 'flake'. He always said he had records, and whilst he clearly had some, he didn't have half the things he said he did. At one of Des T's record fairs early 2000s round the back of Kilburn (maybe when you saw him?) it got so bad, we started making up titles like the rare Ann Sexton record on Selma that kind of thing and he was saying yes he had them, or knew them. In the end he let a number of people down with all this BS. I know this because I was still in St Albans then and I started to get calls from people asking if I had heard from him cos they'd sent money, and in one case could I pop round his gaff and get their money back etc. As for Sag warfare apart from a review in an old Soul Essence programme probably for the slower side, I think Butch was the first person to play "Don't be so jive" out, I then heard Marco play it second.

It's a hard record all right. Don't think Scepter issued it properly. For me Mark one of the low points of WC Anyways good luck in the hunt.

hi Russ, Sounds like you had a blast at Caliente.... Whispers for me (BS was traditionally viewed as more dance floor friendly), unless I am talking British in which case a nice red and white demo of Bobby Sheen trumps all. Whispers not expensive, but most of their stuff on Dore was pretty good.

Flanny is that number the only thing in the runout?

Nice one Dave./...

Thanks for the perspective on Japanese collecting today, and yes I'd agree with your last point re the DJ culture as well.

no worries Nev .....in time honoured tradition the "A side" wasn't quite 'right' back then

Nev what are you talking about 1978? 1997 you prune

I don't think it's much - AND hopelessly overpriced.........ooops there I go!

Yes I thought that Geoff, but if everything else is any measure, we'll be able to tell the difference quite easily

.....and requested.