BrianB

I liked most of the CD on the first listening, and having listened a lot more I think it is outstanding. No it is not 100% northern, but a great example of what was and probably still is in the vault. Like Paul, I can't wait for the Ivy Joe Hunter CD. Where Were You and Its a Desperate Situation are unbelievable records that would grace any venue.

Thanks for the link. Some great reading on my all time fave instrumental, All Turned On!

Looks like I'm on my own, but I like it. I love Chuck's I'd Cry. Top record.

The story goes that someone jumped off the balcony to World Without Sunshine in late 73/early 74. I started going to the Casino in Sept 74 and the tale was going around then.

Hi Brian, Thats exactly what I started out listening to, plus the Mitch Ryder stuff, Quitter Never Wins, the Major Lance/Jackie Wilson stuff, but I heard them at the Mecca in Burnley on Sunday nights. Probably the guys from the Wheel brought them, or the DJ, Mick the Fed had them, but the thing is, we didn't have them as they had not been re-released and we were hearing them for the first time knowing nothing at all about rarity/imports etc. Also we heard the Ric Tic stuff and were exposed to the Soul Sounds boots!

I ofter hear the term Youth Club Record on SS. Someone yesterday said the Love On a Mountain Top was one. Also heard Bobby Hebb LLL classed as one recently. To me, these were great records at the time, played at the Catacombs and the Torch. I didn't hear them ever in a youth club, but in the venues of the day. Is there an age thing at play here or is it lack of knowledge from some as to what was played where? I presume the Youth Club title means it was re-released and anyone could get it, therefore played at YCs by youngsters who were then on the fringe? I am not trying to have a dig, I am genuinely interested in the viewpoint of those who are maybe 45 to 50, as opposed to us mid fifties relics who remember them being played prior to being re-released. ATB Brian

Hope someone can help. I have been offered a Girls of Golden World CD but have never seen it or heard of it before. Is it a genuine release? Thanks in advance, Brian

I am pretty sure someone on here (I think Pete Smith) said Volume 3 was scraping the bottom of the barrel. I wonder if whover it was still has the same opinion or have the tracks sounded better after a few hearings? Must admit I am really looking forward to it. Hope I'm not disappointed.

Hi John, Was it "Mick the Fed"? I didn't start going down until 70 and loved hearing the Wheel stuff from the night before. All the Mitch Ryder tracks, A Quitter Never Wins, Uptight, Its So Hard Being A Loser and all the Jackie Wilson stuff. Start of the slippery slope for me!

Been on holiday and just picked this thread up. I actually read about Love Love Love before I heard it, thanks to Dave Godin's column in Blues and Soul. I still have it upstairs somewhere. He quoted some of the lyrics, definitely the "When I llook into your soft eyes I melt like candy jam, I'll do anything to please you, yes anything I can". I heard it soon after (72?) and it was then re-released on Phillips due to its popularity at the Torch, with Sunny on the B side. I then managed to own it on black US Phillips, on UK as the flip to a Satisfied Mind, and also had the re-release! I have just given my original English copy to my son Paul, and he has always been under strict orders not to sell it. To me, along with James Bounty, Prove Yourself a Lady, Queen of Fools, Whats it Gonna Be, and the rest of the Northern Sounds discovered straight after the closure of the Wheel, (Up the Junction, Catacombs, Penedelum, Torch etc) this was one of our scenes milestones. What would it be worth if it was discovered now and there were only a few copies in existence? It has always been in my top 2 along with Frankie Beverley ITWYW and I will play it with a heavy heart tonight. However, I will also listen to it and raise my glass to Bobby Hebb. He has given me around 38 years of pleasure to date and hopefully a few more years yet of listening to this example of pure class and Nortthern Soul perfection. Thank you Bobby from the bottom of my heart. Brian

Rod.... Brilliant. Paul , come on Son, beat that? Dave, great post. All...funniest thread I have read for a long time on here. (Please read "Newcastle Gunman" on Clarets Mad! Laugh out loud funny!).). ATB Brian B

Dave's Mum and Dad were ace. His dad was the only person in the world Hopper was scared of. He once got done for fighting and didn't dare go home, so he lived at my house for a couple of weeks. my mum liked Hopper better than she liked me!

Hi Chris, I was big mates with a guy called Dave Opacic in Burnley, nicknamed Hopper. He worked at the Reform Club in London in 72 and brought some mega tracks back every week that he promptly sold to me for 25p each. he had a copy of I'm Gone by Billy Sharae on Spectrum and told me that the guy he was buying from told him that Billy was Eddie Parker's brother and had also done a version of Love You Baby, but the best version of I'm Gone was by Eddie Parker. He said if he came across one he would save it for him! He earned great money in tips from people like David Niven etc, and one weekend flew back from london to Manchester (in 1973!!!) to play football for our pub team on a Sunday. When we got to the pitch the manager told him he was a sub! Hopper, who can still bang a bit, chased him round the pitch!

Hi Kieron, Brian Barker here. How are you? Where do you live now? Have you still got all that curly hair? Great to hear from you! Brian

I agree that some sound dated and just don't do it anymore. However I think that The Champion, Sliced Tomatoes, Six O Clock/Supertime and All Turned On really have stood the test of time. I haven't heard ATO at a venue since around 72!

Hi Steve, I will be there on Friday, but might be a bit late down, so hopefully I will get in as it was a lock out time before last. The bad news is Rennie committed suicide a long time ago. I was supposed to meet him on the Friday night in the Stork and never went as I had another do on. Hopefully not related but he died the next day. I remember him spraying his golden labrador claret and blue and trying to take it on the cup semi final in 74! He ws never a soulie but what a great guy. I owe you some terrible quality unreleased Motown stuff. I'll try to get them for you for Friday. Brian

Hi Steve, Best record ever made and I never knew this even existed! Been on the Turf? Remember Rennie Halstead? His picture was in the BE on Tuesday from 71! Brian

Hi Phil, As a fellow Burnley lad in our usual East Lancs tradition, I must disagree with you! I think the Tops version is great, but Edwins is tighter and has more of a Northern feel. Up the Clarets!

Slight drift from the thread, Has Edwin's version of I can't escape your memory been played anywhere? I think this would have been huge at Station Road, and should be huge now. Sorry I can't put a clip up. It is on the Involved LP.

I Hear a Symphony - Stevie Wonder Do What You Gotta Do - 4 Tops

Too many Marston's Pedigree, I meant My World is Empty Without You, not Nothing but Heartaches. Brian B

Hi Dave, How are you? Amazing we are still listening to the stuff we heard from Tony Jebb on those Tuesday nights at the Rose Room, and then its successor at the Cricket Club! Have to agree (again!) with everything Dave Moore says. No wonder he is the editor of the finest soul mag to hit the printing press, or whatever the digital equivalent is. All I know is exactly what Dave Taylor says. I was sat in the Burnley Mecca on a Sunday night in 1970 aged 15, listening to Its So Hard Being A Loser (Look after that Paul!!!), and I was lost for ever. I listened to it yesterday in the car. I have it on CD, Tamla Motown, Gordy and the MFP LP. Just a beautiful record. Played at the Wheel and nowhere really since. I listen to I'll Never be Alone by the Vandellas and I am amazed that anything could be that good. The Funk Brothers are perfection musically. Look at Paul Riser, yes Frank Wilson, Norman Whitfield, and Lamont Dozier for ace producers. The writers, the genius of Berry to have the Tempts, the Miracles, The Supremes, The Tops, Jimmy Ruffin, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Jnr and the gang, Brenda, Kim, Marv Johnson......bloody hell, he had them all on the same label at the same time. How could this be! Northern came from Motown and thank God it did!. I think thats why I sometimes have difficulty listening to crossover/modern. Each to their own, but I just want more of that stuff that moves me. Unreleased, classics, Northern Motown and the classic that you haven't heard for years then all of a sudden you hear Nothing But Heartaches by the Supremes and you think, if that had never been a hit, it would be THE sound on the Northern scene. I think its great that younger guys like Paul have a broad view and listen with a more appreciative ear than I have for funk/70s/80/ crossover/RnB, but know and appreciate the roots of the older members of the scene. Now I am going to be a grand dad thanks to Paul and Jill I know when we babysit (4 Peronis and a curry please Paul) I will get the usual..."Dad, have you heard this?" No I usually haven't, but it is always good. Long may that continue, but deep down I know where the inspiration for the record usually came from. Brian B

Wow , the Paramounts. I had that on a tape recording I did at Wigan in 74, and I went for years thinking it was called These Things I Do! As a result I never owned it. Top class record, but the title probably stopped it getting the plays it deserved. Cissie is far better than Dusty on Bring Him Back. I'm the worst dancer on Soul Source, but for me, its the Wooden Nickels, the Vel Vets, Love Love Love and Frankie Beverley ITWYW! More recent would be My Love Was Real.

I have just been on Refo Soul and I am a little surprised that the 60ts soul post has only 23000 views compared to the crossover one which has 73000 views. Does this make Soul Source a Crossover forum, or is this just a statistical aberration? Brian

Hi Macca, I have waited for years for a good compilation of the CP stuff. The Goldmine one, in a curious way, probably just me, seemed souless. Can't put that into words properly, but someone like Kent/Adey would make this one of the best compilations ever. Brian