I went to my first NS venue 45 years ago at the age of 15. Hoagy Lands, Quitter Never Wins, Breakout, The Kid (Or the Holiday depends on what you believe) and loads more. I didn't know it was a different kind of music night, but I was a big Motown fan and that night hooked me for life. I went to a lot of clubs after that. Didn't know how we were going to get there, and didn't worry about getting back. I used to wear Ben Shermans, black blazer with big vent and loads of buttons, brogues, Royals and Levi Sta Prest I would like to think I looked good. I wore a tie for the Blackpool Mecca, grinning like an idiot at the bouncers to make sure we got in after catching the free bus from Burnley, about 30 of us fresh from fighting on the match. So I can say that I grew up with the scene. I get the scene, I get the music. The problem with the attendees that wear the baggy trousers and circle skirts, and change 3 times a night at an 8pm until 1pm event, and also with most newbies, is that they get the music but they don't get the scene. They don't understand how to behave, or our possibly insular, unwritten rules. Some great posts on here and the other thread, but I think we are going to have to live with the fact that only around 40% of us on here survive from the halcyon days (and that means your own era, not just mine), and get the scene, and that is only going to grow less over the years. We might eventually be left with people who really believe the scene is 500 records, baggy pants, vests, bootlegs allowed, drinks on the floor and the BBC is our friend. I am happy nowadays to listen at home and in the car, and attend the occasional event: but I am still passionate about the music, and will die with that passion. I believe they are just as passionate as I am in their own way, but they won't ever get the scene. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes.