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Posts posted by Epic
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Way Of The Crowd is 2 minutes 51 seconds long.
Good version it is to IMHO.
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I love the curiosities this wonderful scene of ours throws up.
1969 - The Twisted Wheel plays records that are possibly 2-4 years old - that is Northern Soul.
2008 - "Anyvenue" plays a record from 1975 - that is Modern Soul.
Bizarre!!!
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YEP DEFINATLY A RECORD CALLED "SPIDERMAN" HAVE IT ON A TAPE FROM 79/80
Seem to think the song contained the words "Spiderman - where are you coming from Spiderman" - very uptempo if memory serves me correctly.
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Where's ANYONE who has any info on this Top 20 Wigan smash. LOL?
I think we can safely say it didn't stick around long. It's not some horrible instrumental is it? Like "Theme From Spiderman" by Ron
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As usual with the Casino, people forget what was actually played there and what were the BIG sounds.
IMHO Wigan went pretty much downhill after 1975 - can remember Biddu etc. being played - they were just a taste of the shape of things to come.
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Would love to see a list from a year earlier - think the tunes would have been a tad better than Tommy Hunt- Flower Shoppe - Biddu etc.
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If you are talking about the most influential venue ,it has to be the Mecca.They pushed the envelope of what was acceptable on the northern soul scene.the diversity of what we have now is directly attributable to messers Levine and Curtis
Yes - Blackpool Mecca for me.
Northern, Modern, "The Last Hour"(Birth of Crossover) Disco & Jazz Funk.
The Highland Room did it ALL!!!!!!! & that was before 1977.
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Think most people would agree that the "golden era" for the discovery of the classic northern soul tunes (now sometimes referred to as "played out oldies" in certain circles) was 1971-1974/75. This obviously encompasses Torch, Mecca, Va-Va, Catacombs & Wigan.
Wigan did not open until 1973 & was heavily influenced by the other clubs listed above. In 1976 the "oldies" nights overtook the regular Saturday nights in popularity.
In fairness I think Wigan clawed some credibility back in 79/80 when Richard Searling was playing some awesome tuneage.
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One time member of The Platters.
Loads of the 12 on Ebay at the mo. - plenty of "buy it now" from 4 to 7 quid.
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Think i said this on the last thread BUT at The Orwell, we are a 'One spin a night' venue!
If a DJ had brought a specific tune to play and someone else played it before they got on, he/she would be expected to 'find another un'. This works at smaller events like ours, especially because all the DJ's tend to be there all night and listen to everything being played! It's not rocket science is it?
All credit to ALL soul events that have this policy, of which there are lots!
As a word of advice for the huge corporate oldies events that have been blighted by this problem (i.e. DJ's turning up minutes before their set and repeating tunes played only minutes earlier), i'd have a system of at least jotting down what you'd played on a pad next to the decks, so the next DJ can see what not to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not rocket science either!
Only my opinion of course!
Cheers0
Steve
It's not rocket science - or has that already had an outing (twice)
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He sings that line though...so girl don't, don't make me wait
Close........ but no cigar!!!
See post #27 for further details.
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Girl, don't make me wait too long,
cos without you I can't go on,
You are the one for me
etc etc etc.
Tony
Think you need to listen again!!!!
The line is "Baby please don't make me wait too long"
etc.etc.
Just after the break he sings "Girl don't ...........don't make me wait"
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"Girl Don't Make Me Wait" - Bunny Sigler
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Whats a CD ?
Right .............one of them round things that replaced the c90 tape!
Gotcha.....
Probably a disc which helped you - via a computer- to get on sites like this.
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Dusty for me too. Always found Ms Barrett a tad harsh sounding in the vocal & production.
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Cashmeres - Don't Let The Door Hit Your Back.
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Not sure of tears - 73/74 or 74/75 when the two different came out (at work now)
The first release is on blue Vibration label & the release approx. a year later - on yellow Vibration has a more disco groove to it.
Like both versions meself.
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Craig Moerer has a M- copy on GEMM for 75 dollars.
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I don't think you should bracket those artists as sad, all except Tony Blackburn have made some unbelievable records - Lulu - To sir with love for a start, Cilla Blacks version of Anyone who had a heart, Susan Maughans version of That other place, Petula Clark had a fantastic run of classic singles from Downtown onwards including Don't Sleep in the subway, The other mans grass is always greener etc...even Jackie Trent's version of The one who really loves you on Oriole is great
None of the artistes can ever be described as sad.They are all very competent pop singers (apart from TB) & within the pop genre have a huge amount of credibility - they all have had a degree of longevity in the music industry so you have to respect that.
If anybody thinks of these people as soul singers that is fine by me - IMHO they are not.
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I don't like to get involved with these petty bickering arguments about What Is Soul etc, but to me, NORTHERN soul is basically a scene and not a music genre. In the Northern Soul scene the music played is predominantly uptempo music performed by black artists(normally referred to as soul), but also records with the correct dance beat performed by white artists. SOUL music is extremely difficult to define, and I wouldn't attempt to do it.
Certain records by established POP artists have been featured in the Northern soul scene this does not make the artist concerned a soul artist, just someone who has performed at track that fits. The logic that if one Lulu track fits the bill in the scene, that means that Boom Bang a Bang is a soulful classic, is bollocks.
Paul
The fact that people consider a record by Lulu "fits the bill" is the problem I have with it.
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Thats easy,if you use boom bang a crap as your example......no contest Esther......but thats just too easy aint it.
I'll make it easy for you
Doris Troy - "I'll Do Anything" or Tony Blackburn - "I'll Do Anything"
Gloria Jones - "Tainted Love" or Soft Cell - "Tainted Love"
The Righteous Brothers - "Unchained Melody" or Robson & Jerome - "Unchained Melody"
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What is a soul singer then?.....cause i`m losin`it.
Listen to Esther Phillips "Home Is Where The Hatred Is" & then listen to Lulu - "Boom Bang A Bang".
Then make your own mind up.
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Two mugs on source,soul isnt a colour thing never as been.
It's nothing to do with colour - I didn't mention the colour of anyone's skin & your remarks are without foundation & I find it offensive for you to intimate my opinion is based on a person's skin colour.
Truth is Lulu IMHO is a decent enough pop singer - nothing more - nothing less. One thing she ISN'T is a soul singer.
Just to balance the argument - IMHO Tina Turner is a rock singer.
Neither of the two ladies music has ever appealed to me - my opinions are based on the music they have made - certainly not on the colour of their skin.
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Lulu
Cilla Black
Susan Maughan
Tom Jones
Helen Shapiro
Jackie Trent
Petula Clarke
Tony Blackburn......................
................. the list gets longer....................& sadder.
The First Choice- The Player
in All About the SOUL
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Brilliant record!!!! Philly Classic
Love the re-mix that came out a couple of years ago - far too long for the niter crowd - but a great tune nonetheless.