Winnie :-)

============ Think Simsy and Pete Smith are the youtube buffs

========== bump

========= it's a Sian thing...........

=========== Isn't Ken on about the record as opposed to the venue......or am I being stupid? No comments from Baz, Ganche etc

========== Cheers for the info

============ Shane, Do you know if in previous threads the musical director/producer has been named?

================= Wouldn't really expect to hear northen in modern rooms though because that would be a backwards step don't you think? You do hear lots of 7Ts, which is becoming increasingly popular in northern rooms IMO, so they can't be that blinkered I know some of the modern boys probably see 7Ts being played as retrograde, but it is a learning curve albeit a slow one

=============== He's a step up from 'the grey man'

============ Thanks for the update Dean

============== Perhaps there could be a current soul section, not that I'm advocating one, I'm quite happy with soul music in general being discussed in all about soul, but some obviously aren't. I would say, that I recognise within myself, I'm far more likely to enjoy something with a powerful vocal, but thats because I've been bought up on such stuff. I realise thats a predjudice on my part, so try not to label something as soul-less just because it doesn't fit into my particular take. Winnie:-)

=========== Didn't see it, was it the swapped wife playing the northern, or the actual programme. More and more programmes using it as a back-drop, perhaps it's not as underground as we like to think Could be the age of the producers directors etc, bet most of them are of a similar age to a lot of us

========== ditto

============= I tend to notice if something has been played previously during the night, but unless it's a crap record don't really care. I can remember similar things happening in the 'old days' when a record was being broken.

very sad news R.I.P.

============ Tone, In the 6Ts and 7Ts vocalists with the quality of Marvin Gaye and Aretha, for example were required by the record producers at say Motown or Atlantic. This in turn would have spawned a lot of imitators as smaller record companies looked for similar quality to make their fortune. Skip forward X amount of years, the record producers aren't looking for the same ability, because the public aren't demanding it anymore. Step forward 'lesser voices' to take your place in the spotlight. I think musical tastes are fashioned by what's popular, hence sub-standard artists (in comparison to a 6Ts singer) come to the fore of soul music. The above sort of makes sense to me, (not saying I'm right by the way) but I may have tried to condense it too much to make sense to anybody else.......soz

============== Not sure what size venues you're talking about John, but think if they're very small, it could lead to even less people travelling, and fragment the scene further. You're not going to go 150 miles if you're not sure you can get in. As I say, not sure what size venues you're on about, small and cozy to you could mean 250 people, so apologise if theres a misunderstanding on my part

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============== I think a younger crowd would definitely see the northern scene as underground. Can't honestly see how anybody views it differently, it's hardly in the public eye. Population of say 20/30 million adults in Britain, how many know anything about it?

Good luck with the operation clicky Win

=============== Wasn't that around the time of the quadrophenia revival, could that have had an influence? Just asking, by the way, not saying it was

================ Pretty much agree with this, no preconceptions about what should be played, so the one-upmanship factor that prevails in Britain, hasn't taken hold yet.

========== Not just sparked by the internet IMO, lot of peoples families had grown up, so were able to go out again

================= Redefined itself how? Winnie:-)

=============== This must be why the records don't have centres

============ Didn't think you went in for history lessons?