Winnie :-)

========== First nighter central hall Kettering in 74, had done some local soul nights from late 73, Rushden, Bedford, Wollaston. Had a fairly lengthy break to raise the kids, got back into it in 97 I think it was. Winnie:-)

========== Got it

=========== Not a worry if the track is already released on CD. Would only be a problem if the track was new to listeners?

============= Maybe some like to be fashionably late. Myself, I like to be at a given venue anything from an half hour to an hour after it starts, unless I've got a prior committment. Rarely leave before the end either, usually I'm just getting into it when it ends

============= I've probably heard 'out on the floor' 4/5 times in the last 10 years, and that's generally going out twice a week, has it made a comeback somewhere?

========== Are you saying Pat and the Blenders is the same quality as Williams and Watson or Johnny Caswell etc etc? It's lift music in comparison, particularly as far as a dancer is concerned, it just doesn't have the same energy for me.

=============== I will say they're two of my all time favourite players, but you're right I tend to focus on who's playing now. That's not to say I don't hanker for the glory glory days, or in particular that style of free flowing football I can understand constant references by any one person re: any particular venue from yesteryear, could be annoying, but if you haven't been there, IMO you're just making yourself look foolish, as you actually have no idea what you're talking about. To be fair to SS, I haven't noticed non stop references or threads purely to do with Wigan or anywhere else on a regular basis, have you? The other point, yes its 2006, but is there a nighter or soul night (northern orientated) anywhere in the world that doesn't play something that was first played at Wigan? Surely that deserves some respect. Winnie:-)

============== No worries about the PM Not gonna get involved in an argument on this Jocko, particularly as the Sopranos is about to start. Think Russ V said the closest to how I saw it, it was an amalgam, dancing, enjoying yourself and finding new sounds. The particular reply you've quoted, was in answer to (I think) someone saying that finding records was the real ethos behind the scene whereas IMO it was so much more. Winnie:-)

============= I'm not comparing them as venues, I'm comparing the fact I've never been there so can't comment on it (Orwell). Although taking a leaf out of others books, from what I've been told, I wouldn't piss on it if it was on fire even if the legendary piano was in danger Winnie:-) Please note, I've actually only heard good things about the Orwell, just demonstrating how stupid it would be for me to take somebody elses word, without experiencing the venue myself.

============ Would love to see this woman........awesome

============== Good point, don't like live acts at nighters, although I have to say Barbara Lynn was magnificent at Fleetwood a few years back Winnie:-)

============ And they can't do that without trashing legendary venues they've never been too?? I haven't been to the Orwell, do you think I'm entitled to give my view of it as a venue?

=========== It's not about personal respect for having gone there, that has no relevance as far as I'm concerned, I'm well aware its 2006. It's about respecting a venue that was at the time responsible for breaking many great records and moving the scene forward. I never went to the twisted wheel, but understand it was crucial in the develpment of the N/S scene. Doesn't it seem a little odd to you, that people who never went to the casino, or any of the other major venues are so quick to villify them?

================ Would have liked to have read it, but was too busy arguing Winnie:-)

============ Can I ask you not to be so bloody efficient, so we get a chance to read them first

============= Will be checking new members for "SoulSourcersApprentice"

=============== I'm not angry honestly, in 10 years time they'll be extolling the virtues of fave venues/sounds to a new disbelieving younger crowd

Next thing you know they'll be stopping the music every hour and playing Bingo ============ Infinitely preferable to stopping the music every record whilst the chin strokers check the matrix number to see if said record "had a right to be played" I don't wear spencers etc, but it does pis* me off, the indiference some of the 'younger' breed show to those who do, because they 'dress differently'. Is it any wonder the majority of the scene seem not to accept youngsters in general, when you see crass comments like "Yeah I had a piss on the casino site", side splittingly funny and clearly the best way of uniting the scene. Human nature tends to be 'tar people with the same brush', perhaps that's what happens to the majority of the younger element, suffering because of the stream of disrespectful/foolish comments from the few?

============== Notice there haven't been too many replies to this yet.......the truth hurts springs to mind

=============== I think what you're saying will probably fall on deaf ears.......or should that be cloth ears

=============== Just never got the hang of 'touching my forelock'...............it's been the bane of my life

=========== No probs, misunderstanding on my part........I tend to think of him as Baz Winstanley rather than Godin

============ As I'm the person in the main arguing with Baz, I take it you're referring to me as regarding goading? What do you suggest I do if I don't agree with his or anybody elses views, say nothing? I'm sure you're probably just joking, but if we all just sat back and said nothing.......well plug me back into the matrix

================ This bit I tend to believe I don't agree that northern soul is a way of life, but I think that's a different argument. You talked about the 'real' northern scene in a previous post, so what venues have your seal of approval? If I think 'out on the floor' is northern (indeed I do) who's to tell me it isn't, and that I'm not part of the 'real' northern scene. I'm not part of the 'in crowd' maybe, or those who deem themselves the 'saviours' or today's scene, but I don't care. I'd like to see the scene progress, I'd like to see it stay alive, but not to the extent that I'm happy to disrespect anyone who doesn't agree with me.

=========== But the discovering of New records is very rare within itself. It's more about reactivation of records that didn't cut it 'back in the day'. So things have changed.