Winnie :-)

============= I saw that and wondered the same thing Over the years, seen lots of posts along the lines of will youngsters fit in, think I've written a couple myself But if they did come in in their droves, perhaps the question would be, do we fit in, maybe thats really what's worrying people? I'd like to see the scene progress as in terms of a younger element, but if I were in the minority age group at a do, (Time-lords) would I feel comfortable. Guess I won't really know unless this fabled 'influx' is realised. Winnie:-)

=========== Almost the impossible question....... Who are you trying to fool - Little Ann Good feelin - Coco and Ben Crying over you - Duke Browner We can make it - mello souls Walk in my shoes - Gladys Knight First five that came to mind, but ask me another day and at least three of em could have changed. Winnie:-)

============ When you catch yourself jigging in a clothes shop to some old motown, or waterstones come to think of it. If you're in a shop anywhere and they have wood down, and you wonder what it would be like to spin on

========== What about sending a representative? There must be an agency somewhere where you could hire one. Course you may have to pay more dependant on your preferences, something along the lines of....... Got a sick parent/partner or pesky children. Split from your partner so you only get to see the kids at weekends? Are you not getting to all the northern soul do's you should be? Has it been noticed and your standing affected as a result. Don't worry help is at hand e-mail me Sympathetic.Sam@Matchthesoulie.co.uk If I can't help no one can, here's a couple of examples. "youth club soulie"* aka Norman Soul...... £10.00 An authentic example of the dancer who stormed the youth clubs in 73/74/75 knows all the words to 'footsee'. and right up to the top of the range "Sophisticated soulie"* aka Charlie Chinstroker £120.00....... whether you're Charlie or Charlotte (we have one of each) this soulster supreme will impress your friends with his/her knowledge. Computer chipped, so that each e-bay auction re: 6Ts rare soul (it doesn't recognise the term 'northern'....classy eh?) result is beamed directly to him/her ready for immediate discussion. John from Manchester said "I was missing out cos I couldn't get baby sitters, so contacted "Sympathetic Sam" and they sent along 'Dan Dan the backdropping man', and I haven't looked back since. £25:00 quid well spent!" And Pauline from London says "Mum weren't well so I had to cut down on my northern outings, I tried patches and gum, but it just wasn't doing it for me. Came across "Sympathetic Sam" and they changed my life. Sent 'Sally Soulfullasoul' to the 100 club in place of me and my kudos increased 10 fold. Thank you Sam x Only two of dozens of pleased customers! *Prices were correct at time of going to print

============ Thought it was a general question as opposed to being about Stoke? Or have I read it wrong?

=========== Personally I prefer nighters as they have more scope to play what they like. Having said that, I rarely go to them anymore, as the recovery period is just too long these days. Overall, lots of quality soul nights and nighters to choose from (dependant on your personal view of quality) so difficult for me to seperate them on anything other than a personal preference of liking the feeling of being at a nighter. Winnie:-)

=========== A bit harsh, it's not just students who get drunk, it's not just students who dance like tossers, it's not just students who take bags with them, it's not just students who spill beer on the floor etc. Maybe they're not just thinking someone will pinch they're drink, they may be worried about someone spiking it, which is something that happens in their normal club environment and occasionally on the northern scene. Fathers spend a lot of time explaining to their daughters about the dangers of leaving drinks unattended, I'm glad they're being listened to. Whilst I'm a firm believer in etiquette, I am talking in terms of general politeness, not the handbook, "A handy guide to being a soulie". I like to see people dancing in a more traditional way, but even that has evolved through the wheel, Wigan, Stafford and the 100 club, so it's easy to understand how in 2007 it's still evolving. Ultimately its about appreciating the music, the dancing style is immaterial, and in truth I'd rather see people dancing than standing about, as that's much more likely to attract a younger crowd. Winnie:-)

============ What, the bloke who sung about killing the radio star?

============== He used to make suits

============ What about 'rehab', they might like that

imacable

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============= Isn't your whole post a negative? Personally can't see anything wrong with getting younger people into the music, unless you're of the opinion it should be 'our generations musical legacy'. Yeah there are some great nighters/soul nights out there, but if they're not attended they will close down, that's just common sense. I don't think the debate is about the scene dying by the way, I think it's about looking for a way for it to progress. Also can't really see new members coming onto SS seeing some posts about the state of the scene and thinking oooh that's not for me. However, I could envisage some youngsters new to SS reading some posts and thinking, they're so stuck in their ways. Winnie:-)

================ Has to be the future, for a long time we've been able to sit on our laurels, now its time to decide what's the most important the long term, as in the scene still being around in 20/30 years, or the short term view, enjoy what we've got. I'm old school in some ways and don't deny I like to see people dancing traditionally to northern, but am also aware its increasingly difficult for people of my age to continue to do so, and not look comical to youngsters. Those who've been on the scene a long time, want to protect it, and I can understand that, but like everything it's evolving, and if it doesn't continue it will die. The format of the music, the clothes worn, style of dancing, none of it really matters, if you really want to the scene to remain, you/me/everyone has to embrace, understand and accept that the younger persons viewpoint is what's required and far more important than a 30 year veterans. It's meant to be an energetic dance scene, not a tea dance. The whole scene will probably develop even more so, IMO, into a two tier thing over the next 5/10 years, it just depends where you stand if you want anything beyond that. Have to say my view has changed over the last few years, probably brought about by going to venues and seeing more and more people just standing about chatting as opposed to dancing. With younger blood on the scene at least the music will be celebrated in the way I personally like to see it..... dancing, whatever the style Winnie:-)

========== I've always found the MarkyD to be more of a thrash metal fan

========= My mistake, apologies to all for the misunderstanding

================ Was IL on SS then Pete? Never heard anything about PM's??

========================= This post and James T's follow up posts make almost perfect sense to me. The only bit I'd maybe question is "I think the need to please folks who love that traditional style is putting off new people getting into it. But it's fair enough to please them, they're the one's who've supported it all these years". Just seems to be a little contradictory and that you're still wanting to please everyone??

=========== SC, is that really you? Winnie:-)

==================== Read the excerpt.......... I'll wait for the video

========== Some like fish, some like fowl, but taste doesn't depreciate because of a preference, it just becomes different taste Winnie:-)

========== Nurayev, Gene Kelly, Jimmy Cagney, Hughie Green? Do dance comps really affect venue attendance? Never been to a venue yet cos it has one.

=========== I always think its nice to have an open mind

============= Is that just your opinion Davie, or medically/clinically proven?? Just curious, as you seem so sure........ Winnie:-)

Best wishes to Kev on a speedy recovery Winston