Winnie :-)

I find it tedious, and talking of over rated, Jeanette comes into that sphere for me as well, I think because of it's popularity I compared it to what I consider classic sounds and thought it came up short.

I don't think I'll ever truly understand the northern scene (probably why I've given up trying) I honestly can't remember a record I liked and no longer do, there are records I don't want to hear again, because I've heard them so many times, but that's obviously different. I can't stand 'you're ready now', and yet I love 'one wonderful moment', but I can't explain the reasons why, I know one triggers the gotta dance impulse, whilst the other causes inertia. It's not because it's Frankie Valli, I still like 'touch the rainchild'. Who knows, I certainly don't.

I like it, and not because you've said you don't know anyone who likes it. When the scene was a northern scene, it fitted perfectly IMO, and would still dance to it now

George Pepp - The feeling is real Dottie and Millie - Talkin' bout my baby Lada Edmund Jr - The larue Margaret Little - Love finds a way Dean Barlow - third window....... Think they're all stinkers, soz

I tend to look at where a venue is, if it's in the town/city centre I'd be more likely to avoid it because of the possibility of late drinkers. When I say late drinkers I'm referring to the kind that just come into a venue because of the late bar, rather than the music. I know some promoters will run quite a strict door policy, so I'd give them a go, if I hadn't been In general though, no area has put me off completely, just because of it's reputation.

Duke Browner for me as well plus tightrope - Inez and Charlie Foxx You've been gone to long - Ann Sexton at the top of the stairs - Collins and Collins Umpteen others ;)

Andy Rix was an excellent dancer

Let's hope Hanna Barbera doesn't read soul source

Is it now salem source..........

I know we've done this many times before, but the format music is being played off of, would have very little impact IMO to kids coming onto the northern scene. We're old, we're grumpy, we're set in our ways, when ''kids'' go out they want to identify with the other people around them, not many will do that surrounded by OAPs. You said in post 40 ''it's not even northern soul'', citing it's release date as the reason, can it look forward to being embraced in 2042 or is it forever consigned to the bins because it's not a 6Ts release? Personally I think it's time the parameters were widened, so that quality music from any era can take it's rightful place.

excellent, but there'll probably always be a some reason or other not to play it on this progressive scene of ours...........

Suddenly I feel very inadequate....... :lol:

I've just read it but would say, not all the records were memorable, which is the same for any genre and any time period within soul music and the soul scene, so whilst the Eddie Floyd record might not be stunning, it still measures up to and goes beyond the poorer records played early doors. If you're saying the funky edged northern isn't producing a 'ton of dynamite' or an 'it's all over me' or even a 'so is the sun' then I'd probably agree with you, but that would almost certainly be down to my distinct lack of knowledge in the area. What I do know is, that I've been sent the odd CD from someone playing that kind of music out, and I've really liked them, and thought they've fitted a northern criteria.

Surely it's about what's right for some clubs now, at one time Muriel Day, the Ventures, Brian Hyland etc all fitted the template and for me, this is better than all of those.

Perhaps Steve meant profound?

I don't think I'm explaining myself very well, when I say dinosaurs, I don't mean, I want to hear the same tunes all the time, I mean, I have my own understanding of how northern should sound, so if I go to an exclusively northern night, I expect to hear that sort of thing ie: tempo, structure of the song etc. If I go to an across the board night, (which is my preference) then I'm much more open minded, same as when I used to go to the predominately rare nights, I suppose it's all about the packaging. I think it was Chalky who said earlier in the thread, he prefers the term Rare soul, can't disagree with that, because I think it allows for all genres to be played, but if the night gets advertised as Northern soul, then if it's not traditional, there's going to be criticism, nature of the beast, as far as I can make out.

Got what you mean now Bearsy, good philosophy to have, but tough to follow for us dinosaurs I do think though that if we fast forward 20 years, clubs/countries that are very free thinking now about what is played, will have their own groups of people reminiscing about the direction they were taking in the beginning, and longing for 'the good old days'

I think you've been misinformed about the Dome Bearsy, David Flynn, Carl Fortnum, Alan H, Greg, all lovers of soul music, add in some of the guests, Andy Rix, Ady Croasdell, Dave Rimmer, Andy Dyson, etc and the picture i formed of the venue, was that they were all into soul music and at the forefront of championing the underplayed and unknown, alongside the 100 club, scenesville and These old shoes. I never went to Stafford, but I've heard enough of the music via being told, ''stafford spin'' or podcasts, to put that into the same category

It's a problem if you're expecting people who've danced the same way for close on 40 years to radically change their style. I've just listened to the record again, and bearing in mind what Kev said, and yourself re: challenge have concluded I was wrong, and I could dance to it, which I'm pleased about because I really like it

Yes you're probably right, but if your target audience are people who dance traditionally to northern, a problem is created.

Everybody wants to be the new Dave Godin

I read it and enjoyed it, no airs and graces, it's quite short so you'll probably read it in a day

Don't know if you're on about Little Reg's book ''searching for soul'' or Brian Waterhouse's ''Going back''. I think Brian is on here, but is definitely contactable via facebook, https://www.facebook.com/brian.waterhouse.73

Been saying this for years, with no allegiances to any particular club or style, you just judge the record on it's merits, but I don't think that's generally a British mentality.

I'd dance to it, but I don't really see how it's classed as funk, or is it not? To be fair, I'd also dance to Tony Galla as well