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And I have no intention of starting up a show or trying to get on Xfm, its a hyporthetical example.

Alright Rod, You sound like a bit of a tosser, mate. It was just an example of what I think a non soul fan would like because its a song with links to artists they would have heard of. Any other constructive points to make?

Spot on mate. Xfm is on most students / younger folks radio's rather than radio 1. They and I will flick it on at various times of the day and listen to whats playing cos its normally good. Regardless of the music, if they happen to turn it on during one of RW's rants, they'll simply put a cd on instead without giving it a chance. This is my point!!! Winnie, Xfm is a young persons station. Thats prob why noone on hear has heard the show. Its not a specialised northern show aimed at the scene, its show playing northern soul music. If it had a younger DJ playing the tunes and talking about nights around Manchester young people would check it out - FACT!!!! If they hear RW presenting it and talking about a local night, chances are they'd probably presume its an old persons thing. This is the fundamental reason young people aren't coming onto the scene. Its sold as an old persons thing, somewhere your Dad would go. Why are young people into the Beatles, the kinks, the who, the jam, etc, its because its seen to be cool and you can hear someone on your wavelength playing it on the radio. If I had a show that young people were listening to that are open minded about music (like Xfm) and I said, "I'm going to play you a cracking northern tune hear, recently covered by Paul Weller and one of Ocean Colour Scene's favourite songs......Nolan Porter - If I could only be sure" followed by "If you like what you've heard on this show tonight then check out X all nighter on sat in Manchester sponsored by Xfm......" People are going to come.and see what the crack is because someone their age is playing these amazing tunes and telling them about a night in town where they can hear it. It will be like Field of Dreams. So Winnie, I think you need to understand that this is what has to be done and someone needs to do it quick.

Xfm is aimed at a young audience Winnie. All the Dj's they have are funny, fast talking, cool people. RW is none of those things and the majority of people that listen to his show have no idea who he is! The last thing anyone below 30 wants to hear about is old money. He'll fit it into a tale 8 times in 1min 30secs. And you are right, its not there to encourage young people onto the scene. Thats my point!!!!!! There's more chance of them signing up to work down the pit than go anywhere near a soul night.

Its just the way he presents it Mark, its criminal!!!! IF thats the way it works then its a poor do really. But when they listen to his show's do they think he is the best man for the job. I'd be embarrased to say I listened to that show and would never dream of telling my mates to tune in. Is Northern Soul forever to be destined as old man's music????????!!!!!!!!!

I've sent them an email telling them that I'm their man Lets see if they get back to me...... How's tricks Dave, long time no see mate. Where've you been hiding?

I honestly belive I could do a better job myself mate.

I was glad to have found out that there's a northern show on Manchester's new 'cool' radio station Xfm. This station is aimed at people who like alternative music, unsigned bands and basically anything thats not manufactured pop crap. So I thought this was a great oppertunity to let a younger widespread audience listen to the brilliant music we all love. Anyway, I tuned in the other night and heard the DJ, Russ Winstanley playing a Twisted Wheel special. Now I have nothing against Russ Winstanley and I know he has contributed greatly to the northern scene over the years. But when I heard his show it made me shudder. It was just the way he went on about how much it used to be to get into the wheel and how much a pint cost at the time, where he heard this tune and who did a version of this...etc. If I'd have been a new listener I'd have instantly thought "shut up grandad" and turned over. I really wish that they would just play the bloody tunes and have a younger DJ with a bit of something about them, someone that younger people will like listening to and not someone in the later stages of life going on about the good old days. I mean, the music really does sell itself so why do we need to know the life story of the artist, label, venue, price of a pie, how much you could do with a pound in the 60's and still have enough for 3 black puddings and all afternnon on the fair,etc..... Now I know the knowledge is a key part of the scene, but to me and thousands of younger folk out there, we really aren't that arsed about it. Just play me the bloody tune. All my mates listen to Xfm instead of the usual shite and I believe the station could do a lot for getting new blood onto the scene, but with Russ as the DJ it just isn't going to happen. I just want to make it clear that I have nothing against RW and I enjoy his show, but isn't it time to ditch the old school radio show's and move forward with the times and show people how cool the music is with a DJ thats a bit more "with it".

Anyone got one for sale?

Anyone know how much this goes for?

Not a big fan myself. Sounds TOO much like a bond song for my liking.

I'm not taking it the wrong way mate. Just winding you up. I know its a select scene but I think its the scene's fault its that way. I just hope that in ten years time there's still a scene left mate.

They are based on fact. My mates Jim Mash and Trent Shed will back me up. When you back out? You still moaning about having that wart removed on your neck?

Shane I really dont agree with your views on 'youngsters' and what they want to hear. Are you saying that northern is crap? If this is the case, that they wont want to hear northern stuff, then why are me and you on the soul scene and not attending the Pow Wow club and the likes instead. It really pisses me off when comments like this are made. Why is funk, r'n'b or crossover better or more attracting than northern. They are shit!!! Nothing has that gritty edge and gets you going like northern. You are a plonker......

Nah, I dont think so. He DJ's at South in Manchester, which is an club playing indie - madchester stuff. On the posters/flyers they list the type of music that they play. Northern is 2nd on the list. I went down and all I heard was the snake.

Dave did you put the bins out last night? I've been worried sick that you'd forgot!

What a gay.....

Why would they do that. Seems a bit silly!

I didn't know Nige but its clear he was a loved person. Sad news........

I understand mate. Its tricky coming onto a scene where people are sick of hearing certain outplayed songs, but to me and you they are new sounds. It must piss you off when you travel week in week out and hear the same 10 - 15 songs every week, but for me no song is outplayed so its a win win situation. I bet I've heard M.Little - Love find a way more times than I've heard Judy Street - What at any nighter. I suppose its the advantage of being a young soulie amoungst all you old moaning foagies

Do all dj's care if the floor is busy or not?????

Thats stinks mate. Got to be a real kick in the teeth.

How do the nighters compare now to the hay days of Wigan, wheel, torch, etc. I love going to nighters and the fact that most people in there are my dads age does nothing to put me off, but I cant imagine what it must have been like having a room FULL of youngsters going mad to these amazing tunes. Is it still the same for you as it was all those years ago, or will it never be like those early years?

Bobby Paris - I walked away. Ginger ended a night a few weeks ago with this and it was unbelievable. Never been a fan of a slow one to end the night. Best to go out with a bang.

Looks like its got the backing of the soul crowd Paul. Great idea! The Andy Smith cd was hardly a mix album, the tracks rean into each other and that was about it. I liked it though.