Ernie Andrews

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DEBUT? Did she not do the concert in Newcastle in 2011. She was supposed to do the Scottish weekender that year in Dumfries around the same time as the Newcastle concert but allegedly wouldn't leave the hotel to do the gig in Dumfries! Will she turn up this time cos I would love to hear her!

Yes Ian - but were not talking about a record that cost £10 in 1977 and is now £500 were talking of a record jumping up a lot In a relative short space of time compared to something moving price with demand and past sales over a 35 year time period and IMO it comes down to overhyping because less & less good newies are being found.

Isnt that what people on here do ask what price a record is? Arrgh- Ive hyped it up even more with this thread!

IM not bitter at all Quinvy Fuck I sold the Del larks in 1980 for £60 am I bitter it goes for 3k now - NO! I just think and as you rightly said - Looking for something new to play! but does that mean that it should be overhyped in terms of quality and price - That's my gripe! I just think that £750 for it is obscene and in my view distorts the whole aspect of record prices but as been said by many - Supply & demand means any price guide is obsolete so don't bother with them at all - Maybe your right and Im out of touch on prices but Ive seen records that were relatively cheap become 100 pounders because of nothing more than overhyping.- You might as well remove the Comedy sale of the day thread because any comment on outlandish prices could be answered with "Supply & demand" and all the bulshit that goes with it Copies have dried up or Such a DJ is playing it! - Its bollocks ! LIke I said I sold a record this week to a German guy - not in any guides as far as I know - looked on popsike 2 copies 1@$107 and one at $47 Guess what price I sold it for Answer £30 should I have charged $107 using the old addage Supply & demand or realistically priced it? which is I what I did!

Put the wrong side of Heaven in the afternoon on (Instrumental) and looked a right pratt - Ended up being a Kareoke record especially at the Chorus- The Gasher was less than pleased making Dick-head signs to me!

I sold it 3 years ago for £150 and others had sold it at around that price around the same time- The constant price for it being a rare MGM number over the years was £100 - £150 so how come it just rocketed to £750. My gripe is on the dealers speculative pricing (Where the evidence is of past sales is ignored) and the bandwagonners not even having an imagination to price it differently to the other dealer! I just think its nonsense and in my opinion is questionable behaviour on the part of the dealer but hey ho its a free for all and price guides mean nothing and you can price anything you want at anything you want without fear of ridicule. If this was in a different field of product and 2 suppliers advertise at the same price then they might be accused of price fixing. Hypothetical situation I have 2 copies of Pages- heartaches and pain for sale . One is around the past sales price of £150-£200 and the other is at £1000 because Im gonna get a dealer to price it at that! which one is realistic? and why? Rant over!

I disagree - If Pete S had put it up for that price I sure questions would have been asked . Even JM bases his prices on past sales and as this had constant price of around £100 - £150 then how come its jumped 5 fold with no empirical evidence t back it up!

I follow Levine and I disagree with him on this occasion - Wheres the evidence to suggest this is a £750 record? Its bollocks hyped up by the Dealer and bandwagonned by people on here! - No empirical evidence whatsoever - Lets hype up a non too well know 45 by say the Sensations that normally sells for £20 and get a dealer to say Its realty rare and then get Butch to say Its bloody amazing and next you know its £300 ( The scene is becoming a Joke) Lets have a price guide on here!

But you can blame the seller Pete as it artificially raises hyped up prices that does the scene a disservice and the seller I am referring to wasn't even imaginative in their price! They just jumped on the bandwagon of hype concocted by a dealer who should have been slapped down for their outrageous fleecing and distorting the constant price!

Ive always said we need a price guide on here to stop the Bandwagoners! I asked a question to a particular bandwangoner who of course did not answer the question asked! Surprise Surprise!

Irma Routen - MGM Please tell me why this has jumped from £100-£150 to £750 all of a sudden! I see because some daft dealer prices it at £750 then the bandwagoners are at it! What makes the bandwagoner so blatant is they list it at the same price the dealer sold it for! Hang your head in shame because you have no imagination! Its ok but not that good ( I disagree with Ian Levine) and I think the other side is abetter soul record If Im not mistaken. ITs really depressing to see records like this to be blatantly hyped up to increase price that gives the scene a bad name. £750 is a joke for a record like this even if its a difficult MGM one CHrist you can buy a Mel Britt or George Blackwell for that for that or probably 20 or 30 records that are better than Irma Routen. THank F**K IM selling my collection as Id be embarrassed to think that the Doris Smallwood Ive just sold for £30 would on someone's list next week for £500 Come on get a grip and have some self respect! Ive nothing against making a profit on a purchase but selling IR for £750 is obscene!

Ive still got my Musicor demo- Love it!

pmd you

I quite liked Irma Routen when I first heard it from Barrie Waddington about 10 years ago so bought it off him for £150 and sold it on here for about the same I think- Played it out a couple of times when I first bought it to bemused punters and I have to agree with Pete - It does sound like a show tune. If IM not mistaken the other side is pretty good. Never seen an Issue copy.

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Yes Ive had that and it also came out on Steady records as well JM has it listed at £50 and £40 respectively Great voice I have the two others by Mona Lisa They don't know on Dade and I cant stand myself on Blade JM has I cant stand myself listed as funk but its not. It actually also came out on Dade as someone on here was selling one www.youtube.com/embed/fBVpkOUzcxw?feature=player_detailpage

CHalky I had demo and issue and they sounded the same! what alternate take?

What a really nice gesture!

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George Duke was brilliant. Big influence on my musical taste In the late 70s/80s I once played out- I want you for myself - years ago at a Northern night Did that get some looks and comments. RIP George in Tribute IM having an evening at home this week of playing your stuff & Nothing else. https://www.youtube.com/embed/iFCIJBamOqI?feature=player_detailpage

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