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I know Charlie became a country star but he wwas pretty R&B in the 60s wasn't he. This guy wasn't really R&B at all - although there are connections to various sorts of black music in addition to his Northern soul tune...

Blimey - who's Larry Sprigg? Bob Brady's trombonist I guess? Not right but that's certainly using your noggin

A bit less R&B than Jerry Fuller

Well it wasn't Rick Astley the first time it was suggested soooooooooo... Fair bit older than Ricky boy to be honest.

By left field I meant records played at UK soul clubs that wouldn't have been considered soul records anywhere else. Or anywhen maybe? As a rock n roller, Charlie Gracie would fit into that category. Ain't him though... Charlie Gracie

I have no idea what that means but it sounds painful Actually, I can still walk fine so I suspect it hasn't happened yet

I get the feeling you're not all taking this completely seriously... Anyway - nope to all of those excellent suggestions. Obviously this is an old photo of him. I'll post a more recent one in a bit if we're not getting warmer.

Last week's went down ok and had the bizarre side effect of creating a bit of demand (well one person anyway) for Jackie Forrest's "Show Me How To Love" Here's another one. Personally I think it will be a bit easier once you get on the right track - but who knows? Staying with the tradition, this guy is connected with the rather 'left field' side of Northern Soul. The more people join in the better it is and there's no shame in having a guess, so please have a go Here's our mystery geezer

Exactly. An increase in available copies by stock turning up = a less rare record. I guess if someone lost a box load or dropped them, smashing them to bits the record could become more rare but otherwise it's a load of horlicks innit?

You gonna be doin' a bit of dressing up then?

Thought you might All set for tomorrow's picture quiz then?

I know what you mean Nev, but in my experience it's used against specific titles rather than a general comment about old vinyl. Personally I think a lot of folk use it when they mean "getting more expensive", which is more related to demand / exposure. Glad you can be so relaxed about it anyway - this is the sort of thing that drives me nuts!

I keep seeing references on here and on dealers sites to records that are "getting rarer" or that are "going to be rare one day", "Future Rarity" and so on. Clearly this is nonsense isn't it? I mean, the only way something could get rarer is if copies were destroyed or ceased to exist in some other way. I'm not referring to the sort of records that are locked up in collections and rarely emerge either - the phrase isn't usually applied in that way. what's it all about then? is it that some people don't understand the distinction between rarity and demand? Otherwise, does the language give a clue to how the mind of the person using it works: do they really think that these items get scarcer? Alternatively, does it just not matter and am I getting miffed at something that nobody else gives a toss about?

This thread reminds of the Great Disco Debate aka "Disco: why is it a dirty word" ages ago. Bearing in mind this is only from two years, here's what I posted during the row discussion: If anyone's interested in the whole thread you'll find it - I should warn you it gets a bit heated. A disco inferno?

Not very subtle, Ken. Bloody accurate though

1. Buy a Mac 2. command/Shift/4 3 there is no 3... actually there must be a shortcut for screenshots on your nasty PCs too...

Think I still got one in the cupboard of doom. Meanwhile I googled and I'm sure my old copy looked like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeWmVU9UaF8 Should have made it clear that I wasn't actually suggesting it was a tailor made. I just suspected so at the time. It's intrigued me so long though that I'd really like to know its origins.

Yeah that's what I meant Rod. All white ones weren't they? At the time that the rest of the label's (or is that lable?) output was black and red with silver print. Or very dark brown rather than black if we're to be ultra pedantic. It always felt like it was a release specifically for the Northern scene, which is ironic as I never remember it being played anywhere - you just ended up with it. strings and percussion sounded similar to that "soul fox' sound though don't you think? Not saying they were - maybe just a coincidence. Or my ears...

Just found this quote from Bill Buster: Basics: Eric Records was started inPhiladelphia, Pa.. in 1968 with the Paris Sisters record "I Love HowYou Love Me" (#101) pressed at Diskmakers. The label was/is part ofAmerican Record Sales, a wholesale distributor specializing in oldiessingles. We moved to New Jersey in 1974 and stayed there until 1996when vinyl was almost dead. My final location is San Leandro, CA andyes, I took all the vinyl with me, all 400,000 singles on all labels. My 4000 sq. foot warehouse here contains one of the largest remainingcollections of new and unplayed original 45rpm singles (1955-1996) onALL labels, including Eric. Need anything? Feel free to call ore-mail me with your want lists (I have no catalogs). This quote is from 2004 though so you can all stop wetting yourselves...

Same here...

All stamps show is the company that manufactured a record and some info like the year etc in some cases. Monarch was a legit organisation and lots of original records have a Monarch stamp. But so do loads of boots as a shedload of counterfeits were pressed up by Monarch in the 70s.

First Eric 45 I remember having was a Mitch Ryder one. I think it coupled Breakout and Devil with the Blue Dress. Then there was that 'Promised Land' by Cheyene. Sounded like Soussan making a Northern Soul Western movie theme. Naturally I like it

Shipping £1.80 Recorded Delivery in the UK. £2.0 overseas + insurance if required. PAYPAL only please. More scans / clips available. Questions etc are as always welcome by PM or email to: mistergodzilla@yahoo.com Grading VG/VG+/VG++/NM I've tried to grade strictly and a VG+ record will play really well but might have some surface marks. NM is as good as it gets and even unplayed old store stock gets this grade. I've noted any particular defects and will accept returns on any items where the buyer is not completely satisfied. Click on image for bigger scan Fantastic early 70s soul - revival on the cards? Great copy £30 Group Northern - great dancer. £55 Books higher. Nice 70s/ Crossover £25 Remember when this was covered as Johnny Moore? Underplayed oldie £60 Downgraded due to inaudible scuffs - plays great. Superb forgotten oldie and rarer release. 1/3 of (£150) book price. £ 50 Ignore the title! This is great Mod Jazz in the Della Reese 'Very Good Year" mode. Soulful scatting over stomping jazz beat. Unknown? £25 Unplayed looking copy of Johnny Pate prod dancer £20 Popular Oldie - great play copy £20 Searling's old 'Soul Generation" C/U and issued under that title on Grapevine. Excellent version of O'Jays tune £45 Revived girl sound £35 Version of Anderson Bros on GSF £10 Human Beinz - Nobody But Me - Capitol. Japanese red vinyl pic sleeve. Vinyl NM Small tear in sleeve £25 Here's the full list: Scans and clips available for all - just ask - there's no obligation! 21st Creation Tailgate Gordy promo VG++ 8 70 Northern Na Allen I Was Telling Her About You / Open the Door to Your Heart Janus NM 8 Ballad / uptempo version of classic Artie and Linda a Time For Us Columbia promo VG+10 Frankie & Johnny "I'll Hold You" type sound Patti Austin Only All The Time Coral Promo NM 40 60s Northern oldie William Bell - Happy - Stax - VG++ 10 70s Northern Gil Bernal - Can You Love A Poor Boy / To Make A Big Man Cry - RCA promo VG++ 15 2 x great midtempo sides Black Ivory What Goes Around Kwanza NM 4 Funky 70s Bobby Bland Call On Me Duke VG++ 8 Latin Soul Boogie Man Orch Lady Lady Lady Boogie Man NM 6 Disco soul Anthony Butler & Invaders - Katty's Thing - Big Deal VG 5 Mellow funk with nice drums on intro. Plays ok. Butterball Lover Come Back to Me Bronjo VG++ 5 Jazz vocal Carstairs - It Really Hurts Me Girl - Destiny UK 12 inch. VG+ 15 Shows some surface wear but plays absolutely fine. The only way to obtain these mixes on vinyl Claudine Clark - Telephone Game - Chancellor VG 10 Barbara Cooper - What's One More Tear RCA Promo VG+ 25 Edge warp NAP. Shiny copy of upbeat Northern The Chants - I've Been Trying - UK Chipping Norton NM 25 Beautiful copy of this Crossover gem Clovers - Try My Lovin' On You - Josie Promo VG+ 55 Great 60s group soul dancer. Nice and glossy vinyl. Sam Cooke - Sugar Dumpling - RCA VG 15 Popular Oldie - great play copy Crossfire - Take Me Back - Virtue NM 25 Books higher. Nice 70s/ Crossover Chosen Few - Footsie - Roulette VG++ 15 Vocal and Inst versions Own a piece of NS history! Camel Drivers - Give it a Try - Buddah Nm 10 Mod stomper Canarios - Get On Your Knees / Trying So Hard - Spain Barclay with Pic Sleeve VG++ / VG sleeve 15 Hispanic Soul / Freakbeat flip. Great shot of band on sleeve Charmaines - G I Joe - Fraternity VG++ Stkr on flip 15 Girly dancer Kiki Dee - Why Don't I Run Away From You - Fontana (UK) VG ++ 15 Excellent UK prod cover of Tammi Lynn Del Royals - Man of Value - Mercury Promo 30 Easily the best version - £100 book price. This double-sided promo is a bit beat on one side while the other copy is VG and really plays nice Dramatics - No Rebate On Love - Mainstream NM 8 70s soul Jean DuShon / Ramsey Lewis you'd better believe Me Argo NM 8 Midtempo R&B Bobby Foster - If You Really Need A Friend - Sound Plus NM 30 Fantastic early 70s soul - revival on the cards? Great copy Five Du-Tones Shake a Tail Feather One-derful VG+ 5 Red label orig of party tune Free Spirit Love You just as Long As I Can Chess VG++ 10 Classy Salsoul type sound by Callier and Eli Tambi Garret - Leave a Little Love - Ascot Promo - VG+ 25 More upfront version of the Patti Austin tune. Plays great. Gentlemen And Their Lady Like Her / inst Roulette NM 15 Disco classic Gigi & Charmaines - Poor Unfortunate Me - Columbia Promo VG++ 15 Girl Group Soul Georgia Prophets Music With Soul Capricorn VG+ 8 Northern / Beach often listed at daft prices Gentlemen And Their Lady Like Her / inst Roulette NM 15 Disco classic Eddie Garrigan - I Wish I Was - Fontana VG+ Blue Eyed oldie. Some ring wear and name o/l but plays excellently Rosco Gordon + Barbara Kerr - Ain't Nobody's Business - Bab-Roc VG++ 10 R&B Classic on Rosco's own label Richard Groove Holmes The Madison Time / The Odd Couple Pacific Jazz NM 10 2 x Mod-Jazz insts High Voltage - Country Road - Columbia Promo NM 20 Unplayed copy of the slightly funky stomping oldie. Ikettes I'm Just Not Ready For Love - UA Scuffs so grades VG+ but plays NM 15 Sister Funk classic Impressions First Impressions Curtom VG++ 5 70s soul Jimmy & Eddie Stop and Think It Over One-Way NM 20 Funk with hard drums Krystal Generation - You Were Never Mine - CMC VG++ Crossover soul Last Word - Keep On Bumping - Polydor VG++ £15 JB and Fred Wesley prod funk Ketty Lester - Variations on a Theme by Bird RCA promo VG++ 30 Ignore the title! This is great Mod Jazz in the Della Reese 'Very Good Year" mode Orsa Lia - Chain of Life - RCA promo NM 15 Obscure hippy soul Peggy March - Losin' My Touch - RCA Promo VG+ 25 Her best. Terrific Beat Ballad (books over 50) Magic Tones Nothing Better Than Love MAH's NM 5 Detroit soul Martha & Vandellas - My Baby Loves Me / Never Leave Your Baby's Side Gordy promo VG+ 20 Great double sider The M-M and The Peanuts - The Philly - Promo VG- Tough promo. Plays through but crackly - ok as filler copy Bill Moss - Sock It To "Em Soul Brother - UK Pama VG++ Voc and Inst of funk classic on a nice glossy, heavy vinyl UK issue Mighty Mavellows - I'm So Confused - ABC NM Unplayed looking copy of Johnny Pate prod dancer Johnny Nash - Some Of Your Lovin' - ABC Promo G+ 20 Great Big City sound. Seen at £70+. Vinyl and label look rough but plays really well O'Jays Lipstick Traces Imperial VG+ 8 Perennial club soul Paragons Con Me Buddah VG+ 55 Very desirable group ballad penned by Sam Dees - Double sided promos omit this rare side. Glossy but some styrene noise as reflected in price Richard Parker - You're All I Need - Right On NM 12 Crossover tipped by John Manship and others Party Brothers A & T's Party Canusa NM 18 Funk inst @ 40 on Jazzman Lloyd Price - Love Music - GSF VG 5 Looks scratched / plays fine - great version Ramrods Soultrain Rampage VG+ name on label 8 Early mod/ funk Googie Rene - There I was - Class promo VG+ 50 Downgraded due to inaudible scuffs - plays great. Superb forgotten oldie - revived in Europe Rivingtons - Tend To Business - Columbia DJ M- 35.00 25.00 Flip it for ace beat ballad "A Rose Growing in the Ruins" Ashford / Simpson song Rita & Tiaras - Gone With The Wind Is My Love - Destiny White Demo - a lot cheaper than original! - VG++ 15 Sand Pebbles - Love Power - Track (UK) Vinyl VG++ stkr mark on label 15 Nice UK issue vinyl issue Shirtails The Ceiling Prime Promo VG++ 40 Tough promo - Rare Ohio Soul from Stafford era Sons Of Robin Stone Got To Get You Back Atlantic UK VG Looks a bit rough but plays fine 10 70s Philly Mike Sharp Break Through Liberty NM 10 Mod Organ inst Squires Don't Accuse Me Gee promo VG++ 100 £200 on Manships - Great group soul Verdelle Smith - If You Can't Say Anything Nice - Capitol VG 12 Nice version of Gia Matteo - plays well above grade Tac Taylor - Cut You Loose - Rosebud VG++ 30 Blues Funk with hard drums. Not too well known at the moment Willie Tee - Walking Up A One Way Street / Teasin' You Atlantic G+ Fine play copy Don Thomas - Come On Train - DJM (UK) NM 15 Northern with Voc and Inst versions Tiffanies It's Got To Be A Great Song KR NM 35 BB hole in label. Revived girl sound Topics - Try A Little Love - Heavy Duty NM 20 Harvey Averne prod. Crossover Trammps Trusting Heart Golden Fleece VG+ 3 Disco Philly soul Trieste - I Can See Him Loving You - IX Chains VG+ 10 Version of Anderson Bros on GSF Debbie Taylor - Just Don't Pay / I Don't Wanna Leave You - UK Arista NM 25 Superb 70s soul double sider Untouchables Raising Sugar Cain - Madison VG+ 25 Dreamy group soul with Brice Coefield Randolph Walker Shindy Butterfly Black Prince promo NM bubble in wax NAP 10 Georgia soul James Wells Baby I'm Still The Same Man Polydor 12" promo VG+ 12 Winstons - Amen Brother - Metromedia - VG+ 12 Breakbeat classic bobbyfoster.mp3 clovers.mp3 crossfire.mp3 eddiegarigan.mp3 gtoogierene.mp3 kettylester.mp3 mightymarvellows.mp3 samcooke.mp3 thegeneration.mp3 tiffanies.mp3 trieste.mp3

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Thanks Pete, Yeah pink. In my 'Decca Days' I had several copies of Johnny Caswell, Lee Roye and so on but it took me ages to get a Danny White. Soul Bowl had the issues for about £1.25 at the time. As you suggest though, not the easiest record to shift. Clearly someone needs to revive it!