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Ahh, sorry to hear that Rod. You just catch up with one old mate and find you've lost another. Paul

You too mate! Gonna PM you before this bit gets boring to others

Eastbourne? Don't suppose you ever worked at a holiday camp on Hayling Island?

ROGER & THE GYPSIES - HOT NORTHERN SOUL THE VOCAL SHOUTS WERE ADDED BY THE MAHARAJA OF NEW ORLEANS RHYTHM & BLUES - EDDIE BO "PASS THE HATCHET - PART 1" b/w "PASS THE HATCHET - PART 2" SEVEN B 7001 Vinyl is VG++ if not EXC cond by the listening but unfortunately vinyl is splitted on half of the vinyl, you actually barely notice it as it's so tiny, but strangely as it sounds you can't hear any jumping on the split as is almost unnoticeable. So bid in confidence. https://www.ebay.com/itm/roger-and-gypsies-pass-hatchet-VG-but-read-grading-SUPER-RARE-/200695640871?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2eba647327

Yeah was just kidding. My nose might be a bit on the largish side but I don't think I was the guy the topic starter was talking about. During that period Hovis would have been knocking around with someone else as I was more in the Rod/Dave gang when I came back. Hovis turned into a proper wheeler dealer during my time off and I guess he was a prototype 'hot boxer' as he always had a handful of top sounds but got them by selling all off last month's records. I was more of a hardcore collector and at the risk of being immodest, my collection would have wiped the floor with his before I sold up for the first time. Tan and I stayed friends for quite a while and we both got into post punk stuff and used to go and see bands at the Ritz. Kind of drifted apart eventually and in 1983 I moved to Oxford, then went to London and ended up here in Scarborough and never had any contact with that old crowd again. Life's changed since then and I don't really look back. Speaking of which, the beach is calling. Nice to chat

Don't think I was ever dodgy - might have a big nose though!

We'll know each other then Andy. Not best resolution but I'm bottom right, wearing tweed trousers and sleeveless cardie, selling records.

Indeed I did mate. That was where I saw Martin Ellis do the most disgusting thing I'd ever seen. Also in the gang were Carts and Scottish Kenny. Earlier one there were Pemmy (Tony Pemberton) a guy with a polish name (John Wojowski or something like that?) My memory of those times is really fading nowadays though.

His name was Derek Oversby. A bunch of us from Oldham used to go the Casino together and initially it was me, him, Rob Caulfield aka 'Tan' and few others including a kid called Vas whose real name I can't remember. The girls were Anita (aka Kit Kat Kate), Julie and Cath. I eventually drifted away from that crowd and started hanging around with Rod Shard and Dave Withers in the back bar. Don't recall him being particularly dodgy, especially in the context of the time when trying to be a bit of a hustler was kind of normalised I think Hovis Djd in Mr Ms for a while when I had some time off after discovering punk. When I started going back again after about a year Hovis was in to 2 tone and more or less off the scene. Some of the timeline and spelling of names above is probably wrong.

He's included a soundclip too though. Ok for those who are not too fussy and at least potential bidders can make an informed choice.

You sure it's Epic? There's a disco thing on Roulette called The Swan by Real MccCoy or something like that. I think it's the flip to some pretty horrid euro disco sounding tune.

Bugger the dancefloor cheapies. Can we have that thread about records going up in value instead?

I was wrong - she was a member in the early days according to the sleevenotes of a German CD Compilation and AMG: The Sherrys were a short-lived girl group with a rich soulful sound, built around dance numbers that they performed with extraordinary exuberance, organized by Philadelphia singing star Little Joe Cook. A veteran of gospel and rhythm-and-blues, Cook had led a group called the Thrillers from the mid-1950's until 1961, when he began putting a group together around his two daughters, Delthine and Dinell Cook, their cousin Charlotte Butler, and Delores "Honey" Wiley. At one point early in the days of the group's formation, future Motown star Tammi Montgomery (later Terrell) was a member. The group spent a lot of its early days backing other Philadelphia-based acts, including Bobby Rydell, on their recordings. Their big moment as a recording act in their own right came when a dance-craze arose in New Orleans, called the Popeye-initially, the dance was done to Chris Kenner's "Something You Got," but Eddie Bo soon came along with "Check Mr. Popeye," which became a major seller in New Orleans. By early 1962, the dance was being touted as a rival to the Twist, with acts as different as Huey Smith & the Clown and Chubby Checker starting to push it. Little Joe Cook, who'd seen his own recording of "Let's Do The Slop" become a serious regional hit in 1956, knew a good prospect when he saw it and had the Sherrys record "Pop Pop Pop-Pie," written by producers Johnny Madera and Dave White, and aimed at the dance crowd. American Bandstand then featured the group and the record heavily, and the single (issued on Guyden) charted in October of 1962, for an eight week run that carried it up to No. 35 nationally on the pop charts and to No. 25 on the r&b lists. The group's success was short-lived, however, as they never came up with a suitable follow-up-their "Slop Time" didn't chart nearly as well. A superb album, At The Hop With The Sherrys, made up almost entirely of Madera-White songs, appeared on Guyden in early 1963, but it undeservedly disappeared without leaving much of a trace. Ironically, while the Sherrys' moment in the sun in the USA proved to be both brief and over, their records were extremely popular and enduring in Europe, where audiences devoured their authentic soul-dance sound. The quartet ended up touring overseas twice, with great success. They might've regained their career momentum in America, but for a series of personnel and business difficulties that ensued over the next several months. Delthine, the younger Cook daughter, married, and then Charlotte Butler left the act soon after. Cook held a version of the Sherrys together to fulfill bookings, but during a successful engagement in Boston, the group-now a trio-decided to get a new manager. Their history came to an end with this decision, because Cook owned the name The Sherrys. The trio, deprived of the name under which they were known, was never heard from again, and the Sherrys became part of pop music and dance history Bruce Eder ..... AMG

Tammi Montgomery aka Tammi Terrell was a member at one time. Latter days I assume? Here's the Wikipedia entry: The Sherrys were an American girl group from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, active briefly in the 1960s. The group came together in 1961 around Philadelphia singer Little Joe Cook, former lead singer of The Thrillers; it featured two of his daughters and their cousin. Initially they acted as a backup ensemble for local acts such as Bobby Rydell. In 1962, a dance craze called The Popeye shot to popularity, and the group recorded the tune "Pop Pop Pop-Pie" (written by Johnny Madara and Dave White of The Spokesmen) in hopes of capitalizing on it. The group was invited to perform on American Bandstand and the record peaked at #25 on the US Billboard R&B chart, and #25 on the Billboard Hot 100.[1] The group recorded a follow-up single called "Slop Time" (to accompany a dance called The Slop), but the record did not sell as well. An album entitled At the Hop with the Sherrys followed early in 1963 on Guyden Records; most of the songs on it were written by Madera and White. The group faded in the US but became wildly popular in Europe, where they toured twice.[1] Charlotte Butler left the group after these tours, and the group continued to tour with a modified lineup. The members later decided to find a new manager, and Joe Cook, who owned the rights to the group's name, retired it. Butler eventually settled in Sweden, where she married Svenne Hedlund, and formed the duo Svenne & Lotta, that became a famous act throughout Scandinavia during the 1970s and 1980s. Members - Delphine Cook - Dinell Cook - Charlotte Butler - Delores "Honey" Wiley - Tammi Montgomery

Was just thinking the same - don't recall it turning up in bulk?

Very fair prices on these I believe. Check MP3s and Scans and please read grading info for these 45s. Shipping is £1.00 1st Class or £1.80 Recorded Delivery for up to 2 x 45s Worldwide £2.50 overseas + insurance if required. Combined shipping available if you buy more than one record PAYPAL preferred but cheques ok by arrangement. All prices are GB pounds. Anyone who has bought from me before will know that I grade strictly - more info below. I'm happy to provide further MP3 clips, more scans. Questions etc are as always welcome by PM or email to: mistergodzilla@yahoo.com Showmen - The Wrong Girl - Minit M- 70 Classic floor-filler Showmen.mp3 Prince Philip Mitchell - Keep On Talking / Love is a Wonderful Thing - Smash Promo VG++ 35 HOLD Superb version of James Barnett tune with ace flip Smash 2152 A.mp3Smash 2152 B.mp3 Jewel Akens - I've Arrived - Era VG+ 30 SOLD More soulful version of the Steve Flanagan sound Era 3154.mp3 Agents - You Were Meant For Me - P&L VG+ 15 More Philly goodness from the 'Trouble' group Jimmy McCrackin - There Boots are Made For walking - Imperial Promo - VG+ 15 RnB Version of the Nancy Sinatra classic - great to drop in as a surprise at your Christmas party! McCracklin.mp3 Hank Diamond - Soul Sauce - World Pacific Promo - VG++ 45 Vocal to Cal Tjader and better dancer than Shirley Scott's cut. Has been a biggie on the Northern, Funk, Mod, Jazz dance and R&B scenes at various times - still a toughie though! Hank Diamond.mp3 First Grade - Please Come Back - Frog - VG+ 30 Long forgotten stomper from Stafford era - ripe for fresh spins maybe? First Grade.mp3 Tennessee Ernie Ford - 16 Tons - Capitol - 1965 Go Go Version M- 40 Really nice copy of Ernie's updated 60s version of his hit. Current in-demand play on Popcorn and R&B scenes. 16 tons us.mp3 I'm now using the grading system recommended by this site as below. This means that a VG+ record will look and sound nice and won't be a piece of trashed vinyl with a coating of wishful thinking! I've also added scans and clips to give an even more accurate idea. M- As good as it gets, practically an untouched record that plays as if it were brand new store stock VG++The odd barely discernible surface mark or minor blemish, nothing that will affect play in any way. VG+ A few more marks or light scuffs than a VG++ record but still sounds fine for listening and/or DJing. No scratches.Light surface wear. A used but far from abused copy. VG Scuffs and light scratches throughout, most can't be felt. Expect some surface wear throughout the record with light surface noise and possibly a few pops in places. Should still serve as a suitable player copy for listening & DJing. VG- The record may have some scratches that will be deep enough to feel. Audible clicks and pops are likely consistent throughout the grooves.Expect noticeable noise throughout, NO SKIPS though.

I keep all my expensive stuff at Bob's house

I have his "Love At First Taste" and it's an immense funk groove. Better than the redone version "Funky Trip' to my mind, as the psychedelic sound effects don't add anything and just get in the way in my opinion. Good old Dave Hamilton

There's a record that I'm sure was a Stock Aitkin Waterman production - had that sound - that I only ever heard once, about 7.30am in (I think) 1988, that samples the "yeah!" and "woooohhh!" from the Chaumonts "I Need Your Love. Naturally it was terrible but it was pretty amusing trying to explain and sing the tune to Mrs G...

Not necessarily if VG++ (VG++The odd barely discernable surface mark or minor blemish) is used accurately. VG+ records should be decent play copies too according the system. I think the problem has always been the graders, not the grading and it'll take more than a new system to solve that one.

Yeah - we need be able to say Ex++ and Ex- Otherwise we'd be in danger of offering an accurate grading (and we're all so paranoid that others won't the same that we daren't).

Because the scene is a microcosmic version of our society.

A talented and versatile artist who brought us a 45 that is perhaps the epitome of Northern Soul. RIP Dobie Gray. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EA7A3Lq6xQ

It's nonsense - or maybe wishful thinking. On reflection though, I reckon that due to some sellers over grading (frequently in the UK, it has to be said) others are afraid to use a VG or VG+ grade in case potential buyers infer that the record is in bad shape. I guess therefore that even if this site insisted on a standard grading system, some sellers will continue to abuse it. I'm often aware that I'm selling records with a few marks graded VG+ that others would call Ex or NM. Also, I've never forgotten selling a 45 that I had genuinely graded VG due to it having numerous ugly surface marks, but also noted that it played absolutely fine. It was bought by a high profile seller on here that almost immediately re-listed it as Ex.